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Old 03-26-2009, 05:12 PM
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Default Golduck???

Is golduck a good special sweeper. I am trying not to use OU pokemon.
It has a modest nature and 252 special attack ev's, 252 speed, and 6 special def.
It's not a alakazam but, Im the same person who uses a dunsparce in Competitive play.
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Old 03-26-2009, 07:37 PM
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Default Re: Golduck???

Is this for use on Shoddy or Wi Fi?

Sure, give him a shot. Surf and Ice Beam are always good moves, and you could use Hidden Power Electric/Grass on Shoddy or Psychic or Focus Blast on Wi Fi to handle opposing water-types. Choice Specs or Calm Mind would be good ideas as well, as long as they're not on the same set.

Or if you decide to go physical, he gets Aqua Jet in Platinum and he could be used as a Sub Puncher.
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Old 03-26-2009, 08:05 PM
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Default Re: Golduck???

He may not be OU, but even in UU his sweeping abilities are mediocre. The CM variant is your best chance at sweeping:

Golduck@Leftovers
Timid
Calm Mind
Surf
Psychic/Ice Beam/Hypnosis
Psychic/Ice Beam/Hypnosis

CM boosts, surf for STAB. The final two slots depend on what you want to do- Psychic covers the many poisons in UU, ice beam nails grass types, and hypnosis gives you more set-up time, although it's accuracy dropped to 60% in platinum. However this thing is completely redundant in OU, as there are other pokes that CM sweep so much better and using pokes for the sake of being different is just plain stupid.
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Old 03-26-2009, 11:26 PM
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Default Re: Golduck???

Golduck = sucks Never get one unless you want a full pokedex as his sp attack is below 300 at max with full EVs and IVs.

Instead, get gengar, salamence, OR alakazam/mewtwo. You can never go wrong with mewtwo.
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Old 03-27-2009, 12:47 AM
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Golduck = sucks Never get one unless you want a full pokedex as his sp attack is below 300 at max with full EVs and IVs.

Instead, get gengar, salamence, OR alakazam/mewtwo. You can never go wrong with mewtwo.
It's hard to say if you were talking about competitive or in-game, because yes, Golduck is not great in competitive play, but you're not even allowed to use Mewtwo, so I don't know what you're suggesting him for.

Most pokemon can be used decently in-game with some exceptions, namely Ditto and some others. Golduck is a great pokemon in-game.

I'll give you a Choice Specs set:

Golduck @ Choice Specs
Modest nature
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-Ice Beam
-Hidden Power (Electric/Grass)
-Psychic/Focus Blast
The Hidden Power is assuming that you're using a battle simulator (Shoddy), otherwise just go with both of the last two move options. Focus Blast sucks with its accuracy, but it does have more power and possibly more type coverage than Psychic. It should probably depend on your team.

Otherwise, go with the Calm Mind set.
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Old 03-27-2009, 11:08 AM
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Wait so hes asking for advice to beat the elite four? This is worse than I thought.

PS: In battle tower you are right, no mewtwo. Battle tower = sucks. WifiBattle is way better and there you can use mewtwo
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Old 03-27-2009, 01:43 PM
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Wait so hes asking for advice to beat the elite four? This is worse than I thought.

PS: In battle tower you are right, no mewtwo. Battle tower = sucks. WifiBattle is way better and there you can use mewtwo
This is not in-game, nor is it battle tower, or regular wifi either. These forums are for the competetive metagame, and as such you should not post if you have no knowledge on (Which you do not, since if you did then you would know mewtwo is banned).
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Old 03-27-2009, 04:44 PM
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Golduck = sucks Never get one unless you want a full pokedex as his sp attack is below 300 at max with full EVs and IVs.

Instead, get gengar, salamence, OR alakazam/mewtwo. You can never go wrong with mewtwo.
I said I don't use OU or UBER pokemon!!!!!

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Old 03-27-2009, 04:46 PM
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I said I don't use OU or UBER pokemon!!!!!
Just ignore him. What do you think of the suggestions that have been given, do you have any more questions? Do you need anything explained?
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Old 03-27-2009, 05:10 PM
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Wait so hes asking for advice to beat the elite four? This is worse than I thought.

PS: In battle tower you are right, no mewtwo. Battle tower = sucks. WifiBattle is way better and there you can use mewtwo
Sorry for the double post, but I just saw this

First of all, *eh herm* I'm a she
Secondly, I am using my Golduck for in game and sometimes competitive play, and besides, we all know how to beat the game, so don't flame me for that. I just needed a moveset other than the all physical/special moveset that I have been using for golduck for 10+ years. I need to get a lot more complex with my movesets.

For Max-Attack:
I could really use the calm mind set, that sounds like my best bet for both in game and competitve. And I like using virtually unused pokemon, not to be different, but I like to mix things up once in a while and train pokemon that I would normally just leave in my box forever...
Other than that, Thanks for the help!!!!!
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Old 03-27-2009, 05:14 PM
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What Gofre said pretty much. Smogon kows what its doing!
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Old 03-27-2009, 07:28 PM
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Default Re: Golduck???

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Sorry for the double post, but I just saw this

First of all, *eh herm* I'm a she
Secondly, I am using my Golduck for in game and sometimes competitive play, and besides, we all know how to beat the game, so don't flame me for that. I just needed a moveset other than the all physical/special moveset that I have been using for golduck for 10+ years. I need to get a lot more complex with my movesets.

For Max-Attack:
I could really use the calm mind set, that sounds like my best bet for both in game and competitve. And I like using virtually unused pokemon, not to be different, but I like to mix things up once in a while and train pokemon that I would normally just leave in my box forever...
Other than that, Thanks for the help!!!!!
~Psygirl
Complexity is overrated. In golduck's case, a simple CM or specs set will do perfectly fine in-game, as will any set for that matter. Save the complex set-ups for when you're an experiened wifi player and ready to attempt a baton pass chain.
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Old 03-30-2009, 04:48 PM
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Complexity is overrated. In golduck's case, a simple CM or specs set will do perfectly fine in-game, as will any set for that matter. Save the complex set-ups for when you're an experiened wifi player and ready to attempt a baton pass chain.
Thanks a bunch, I'm not that experienced on WiFi and I wanted some help to do better... Well everyone has to start somewhere...
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