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Old 03-11-2009, 04:48 PM
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Hmm, I'm thinking of getting a wobbuffet, however I'm confronted with a conundrum

Wobboffet @ Leftovers
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Encore

But here's where my Problem occurs, do I use Charm or do I use Safeguard?

Charm would be good as while Encore-ing, I can decrease there Attack, if a special sweeper. However Safeguard would stop my opponents from crippling my Wobbuffet.

So what do I choose? Your views?
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Old 03-11-2009, 04:52 PM
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I hope you remember Wobbuffet is UBER.
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Old 03-11-2009, 04:56 PM
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I hope you remember Wobbuffet is UBER.
That doesn't answer my question, and it's for Battle Tower and vs my friends use only. (we don't really care about Tiers)
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That doesn't answer my question, and it's for Battle Tower and vs my friends use only. (we don't really care about Tiers)
Wobbufet has such little move choice, it's really about what you think would best benefit you. Do your friends go for status moves like World of Warcraft, and Hypnosis? See, with Charm, you lower their attack, which in turn means less damage that you can do to them.
But as I said, it's all a matter of opinion.
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Old 03-11-2009, 05:21 PM
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That doesn't answer my question, and it's for Battle Tower and vs my friends use only. (we don't really care about Tiers)
If your friends are also gonna be using ubers, charm would work nicely at crippling groudon and non-DD rayquazas. On that note, do those HP EVs do anything significant? If not run max in both defence stats and shove the final EV in HP
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Old 03-11-2009, 05:58 PM
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I think I'll do that, thanks Gofre. You seem very knowledgeable on this sort of thing.
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I came up with a plan for 'fet in a double battle.

Have the partner use encore of 'fet so you can keep charmin' away at the enemies.
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Old 03-11-2009, 07:34 PM
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I came up with a plan for 'fet in a double battle.

Have the partner use encore of 'fet so you can keep charmin' away at the enemies.
Why would he need to be encored to perform the same move repeatedly? Besides, encoring your own poke under any circumstance is ridiculous.
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Why would he need to be encored to perform the same move repeatedly? Besides, encoring your own poke under any circumstance is ridiculous.
Agreed, I think I'll just use your set up Gofre.
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Old 03-11-2009, 08:27 PM
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Agreed, even I know that -.-

Anyways, while I was bathing, I thought up my Own Wobbeffet, well I say my own It's just a variation of the commonly used 'fet

Wobboffet @ Leftovers
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200 Spd/ 200 Def/ 108 Spe
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Mirrorcoat
Encore
Destiny Bond

Okay, I have thought this through.
With the 108 Spe, I should be able to pull out a Destiny bond on my first turn, leaving my opponent pretty much crippled from there. After this, depending on what my opponent used, I would have three options.
Option 1
Opponent used a Special attack move - I use Encore, then proceed with my MirrorCoating
Option 2
Oppoent used an attacking move - I use encore then proceed to counter
Option 3
They used a Stat boosting move - I can do nothing this turn

However, I still think it's a good moveset and strategy. Comments & Criticisms?

If it's "Totally Wack" then tell me so, I'll just stick to Gofre's idea, if it's equal to, or better than (doubtful) Gofre's idea then I'll use it.
This kind of thing is not recommended. Wobuffet is only ever used in the presence of ubers, wheteher that is tiered or untiered (For example I'm sure your friends will love using a big whale). These ubers will proceed to beat on wobuffet as it sets up destiny bond- To use kyogre as an example again, a rain-boosted full HP water spout will OHKO wobuffet without maximal SpDef investment. Wobuffet could have in turn mirror-coated for the easy kill, but instead he is dead and the opponent switches merrily out. This kind of strategy will not work in ubers, as everything will KO wobuffet in 2-3 hits. This is what wobuffet relies on, as while he needs to take massive damage in the first place to counter, he also needs to survive long enough to do this. Wobby really lacks the staying power to do this sort of thing, mismagius can manage in UU and umbreon sometimes works, but wobby faces too many strong threats for it to be worthwhile.
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Old 03-11-2009, 08:52 PM
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This kind of thing is not recommended. Wobuffet is only ever used in the presence of ubers, wheteher that is tiered or untiered (For example I'm sure your friends will love using a big whale). These ubers will proceed to beat on wobuffet as it sets up destiny bond- To use kyogre as an example again, a rain-boosted full HP water spout will OHKO wobuffet without maximal SpDef investment. Wobuffet could have in turn mirror-coated for the easy kill, but instead he is dead and the opponent switches merrily out. This kind of strategy will not work in ubers, as everything will KO wobuffet in 2-3 hits. This is what wobuffet relies on, as while he needs to take massive damage in the first place to counter, he also needs to survive long enough to do this. Wobby really lacks the staying power to do this sort of thing, mismagius can manage in UU and umbreon sometimes works, but wobby faces too many strong threats for it to be worthwhile.
I realised what a stupid Idea this was shortly after posting, and replaced it with
"Agreed, I think I'll just use your set up Gofre. "

But thanks for telling me why, I'd really like to get into competative battling, I just need a little, well a LOT of guidance.
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