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Fourth Generation Discuss the fourth generation Pokemon games: Diamond, Pearl, Platinum, HeartGold and SoulSilver.


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Old 12-26-2008, 01:16 PM
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Scizor in OU, Ninjask in ubers. Yes, I use ninjask in ubers :)
Just because its realy fast?
Scizor owns untill its hit by a fire move.....
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Old 12-26-2008, 11:09 PM
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Just because its realy fast?
Scizor owns untill its hit by a fire move.....
thats the only bad thing about scizor lol.fire is a thing that every scizor trainer hates to see.and lol why when u evolve scyther into scizor does his speed go down?i mean i would expect it to go up seeing as how scizor looks pretty fast lmfao
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Old 12-28-2008, 12:20 AM
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Out of these choices, Heracross; Disregarding these choices, Heracross.
HERACROSS ALL THE WAY!!


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Hah, sorry, I'm a huge Heracross fan (could you guess?)

But yea, if Heracross wasnt there then my second choice would be Scizor. X-Scizzor and Swords Dance!

BUT I CHOOSE HERACROSS!!
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Old 12-28-2008, 08:16 AM
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Just because its realy fast?
Scizor owns untill its hit by a fire move.....
Actually imagine a rayquaza who gets a swords dance and speed boosts passed to him at the same time. The stats are already huge in ubers, and ninjask is capable of doubling 2 stats at a time with ease.
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Actually imagine a rayquaza who gets a swords dance and speed boosts passed to him at the same time. The stats are already huge in ubers, and ninjask is capable of doubling 2 stats at a time with ease.
Plus, Ninjask may just be in good business for that, because offensive leads are far more common in Ubers than supporting ones, and that's only because the offensive ones are so damn good at what they do. And, since Stealth Rock is subsequently not quite as common, Ninjask is a very plausible addition to an Uber team, all things considered.
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Old 12-28-2008, 08:57 AM
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Forretress definitely pwns all. I love Steel Pokes and Forretress is tough to get through without Fire in the GSC Elite Four.
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Old 12-29-2008, 10:10 AM
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I've found a way to top scizors weakneesses, you could add quick attack aswell as bullet punch. Sure it does't give stab but a swords dance in then with bullet puch orr quick attack it can own almost anything. With this only way to stop it wuld be like a magnazone with hp fire.......

Scizor@Life Orb
Ability: Technion (sp?)
252 Attack/252 Speed
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{Move of choice}

If there is a move scizor can learn to top off steel types put it in the moveset. HP fire could do it but it would be a no no....
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Old 12-29-2008, 01:22 PM
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I've found a way to top scizors weakneesses, you could add quick attack aswell as bullet punch.
Actually you haevn't discovered anything, quick attack has always been a well-known option on Scizor. The most common scizor set runs as following:

Scizor@Life Orb
Adamant
252Att/252HP/6Spd or 252Att/252Spd/6HP
Bullet Punch
Super Power/Brick Break
Swords Dance
X Scizzor/Roost/Quick Attack

It's primarily there for things neither bullet punch, the fight move or X scissor can hit, like zapdos and infernape.

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Old 12-29-2008, 01:31 PM
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Actually you haevn't discovered anything, quick attack has always been a well-known option on Scizor. The most common scizor set runs as following:

Scizor@Leftovers
Adamant
252Att/252HP/6Spd or 252Att/252Spd/6HP
Bullet Punch
Super Power/Brick Break
Swords Dance
X Scizzor/Roost/Quick Attack

It's primarily there for things neither bullet punch, the fight move or X scissor can hit, like zapdos and infernape.
Brick breaker would own alot of steel types, the only counters (i think) would be metagross and bronzong......
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Brick breaker would own alot of steel types, the only counters (i think) would be metagross and bronzong......
A) Superpower is generally the superior option
B)After one swords dance, brick break is capable of 2HKO'ing both of those pokes and superpower can potentially OHKO bronzong (Metagross risks being OHKO'd if stelth rock is in play). Just because they don't take super effective damage does not mean they are counters. They can also have fun attempting to switch in, since if X Scizzor is in use then bullet punch is all they can switch in on.

The best counters are fire types, resisting both STAB options. Moltres and Charizard will also abosrb brick breaks nicely. Rotom also works well as a counter, especially oven form who OHKOs with overheat.

EDIT: The best item choice for SD Scizor is life orb, not leftovers. Lefties is an option for bulky variants however.
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Which bug pokemon do you think is the best and why.

The candidates are...

-Yanmega
-Scizor
-Forretress
-Heracross
-Ninjask
-Shedinja

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Heracross

Because he is so awesome with the fighting skill
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I like Scizor because he looks cool, and he is good in battle.
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All of the candidates are great with each of their own purposes. It's difficult to choose the "best" out of the bunch because people find different uses and variations in usefulness for all of them. However, if I had to choose I'd go with Scizor. I have tested him, and I have to say that when used right this Pokemon is a force to be reckoned with (he could even be up there with Garchomp). Just beware of Fire attacks, lol.
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Old 01-17-2009, 10:37 AM
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All of the candidates are great with each of their own purposes. It's difficult to choose the "best" out of the bunch because people find different uses and variations in usefulness for all of them. However, if I had to choose I'd go with Scizor. I have tested him, and I have to say that when used right this Pokemon is a force to be reckoned with (he could even be up there with Garchomp). Just beware of Fire attacks, lol.
Only scizors weakness to fire brings him down...
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My point was that you accused him of copying something which you didn't invent. Thousands of "which is the best?" threads were made before you and thousands more will surely follow, you have no claim on which you can say he copies you.

Oh very well, I now close this argument thing, can't you see that I already apologized? and I don't accused, I already said that I'm sorry because I am surprised. I hope you get what I mean


I agree to Foretress, because look at it's ability(^^)
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