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Old 11-27-2008, 02:53 AM
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Do the elections of 2008 mean no more strangle-hold on American politics from the religious fundamentalists?

The Republican governors recently met to try and decide the future of the party.
It sounds like they are trying to decide whether to hop off the evangelical wagon that they have been riding, and go back to their roots which is basically small government & fiscal conservatism. In the last election; the only gains the Republicans won were in Appalachia. They realize that they cannot win the country if they are seen as the old-white-fundy party.
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Old 11-27-2008, 04:49 AM
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I'm pretty sure that if the Republican Party wants to survive, they'll kick out the Christians by the next election.
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Old 11-27-2008, 07:03 AM
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I'm pretty sure that if the Republican Party wants to survive, they'll kick out the Christians by the next election.
IIRC most of their support comes from conservative Christians, so jumping off the conservative wagon will just kill them A LOT faster. :P They just have to stay as they are. All they need to do to get a ratings boost is to kick Palin out of the spotlight. :3

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Old 11-27-2008, 07:12 AM
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Default Re: Future of the Religious-Right?

Eh, every elections more of the old fuddy-duddys stop voting due to various reasons and more open-minded young people reach voting age. Overt-conservatism is a suicidal path. Going back to the Republicans' roots seems about right.
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Old 11-28-2008, 01:06 AM
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Eh, every elections more of the old fuddy-duddys stop voting due to various reasons and more open-minded young people reach voting age. Overt-conservatism is a suicidal path. Going back to the Republicans' roots seems about right.
I thought there were a sizable amount of conservative young people too.

I'm telling you, it's all Palin's fault.
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Old 11-28-2008, 06:41 AM
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Well, maybe they could strike a balance...

So, is Palin a Christian? :P
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Separation of Church and State, people need to get with it.
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Old 12-11-2008, 11:33 AM
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Thanks.

Now, just take her out for a trial run, to see if the Republican party will recover...
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I'm pretty sure that if the Republican Party wants to survive, they'll kick out the Christians by the next election.
Most of us Republicans ARE Christians. Probably most of the country is, too. So, if they got rid of them, they'll be no more than the Green Party. Besides, America was founded on Christianity. There's no one anyone can say or do to cover that, or hide it. It's undeniable.


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Most of us Republicans ARE Christians. Probably most of the country is, too. So, if they got rid of them, they'll be no more than the Green Party. Besides, America was founded on Christianity. There's no one anyone can say or do to cover that, or hide it. It's undeniable.


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I honestly dislike what the word 'religion' has turned into. Talk about it here and everyone not in your religious group starts spouting nonsense on how we're all crazy and try to turn everyone into a Christian and all that other junk. Honestly, it's just the same as saying "all people of Arabian decent are terrorists."

And I love it even more when atheists are all "man, I hate Christians, they keep on trying to say everyone else is wrong, won't listen to reason/anything we say against their religion, and try to convert people! But hey, everything they say is wrong and you can't convert me, you're all idiots for believing it and you should become Atheist!"

Keeping this thought going, I don't see why it SHOULD matter if they're Christian-based or not. "Oh my gosh, they believe that people should be nice! OHNOEZ!"

So, I'm saying that it doesn't matter WHAT they are, which I guess is a sense of 'religion and state not mixed.' As religion has nothing to do with politics, it makes sense, and it's just asking for people to whine and moan about something that shouldn't matter. But I don't believe in it to the point where we have to change things that are fine already ...
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Yeah but is it fair? No.
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I honestly dislike what the word 'religion' has turned into. Talk about it here and everyone not in your religious group starts spouting nonsense on how we're all crazy and try to turn everyone into a Christian and all that other junk. Honestly, it's just the same as saying "all people of Arabian decent are terrorists."

And I love it even more when atheists are all "man, I hate Christians, they keep on trying to say everyone else is wrong, won't listen to reason/anything we say against their religion, and try to convert people! But hey, everything they say is wrong and you can't convert me, you're all idiots for believing it and you should become Atheist!"

Keeping this thought going, I don't see why it SHOULD matter if they're Christian-based or not. "Oh my gosh, they believe that people should be nice! OHNOEZ!"

So, I'm saying that it doesn't matter WHAT they are, which I guess is a sense of 'religion and state not mixed.' As religion has nothing to do with politics, it makes sense, and it's just asking for people to whine and moan about something that shouldn't matter. But I don't believe in it to the point where we have to change things that are fine already ...
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Ya'll really need to read Scott's post and stop blaming christianity.

I personally think that the republican party are the way they are is not because they're christians, I think they're just plan ignorant.
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There are zealots of every flavor (including non-flavored).
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Default Re: Future of the Religious-Right?

Well I'm a Christian, and I clearly don't agree with some Republican policies. Therefore, the fault must lie with the people, and not the religion. Christianity as a religion is good. The people that make it up tend to mostly be people that keep shooting themselves in the foot and refusing to admit it. A minority are total fools and extremists, but that happens in every religion. Like Islam.

HOWEVER, that being said, it's true that policies should not always only cater for Christians. Sure they were founded on Judeo-Christian values, but the very first amendment to the Constitution demands a "Seperation of Church and State". This directly states that while the founding laws of America are based on Christianity, the rest of the laws shouldn't be drawn up just because they are in line with Christian beliefs. Would not basic human rights take precedence over Christian values? If you say that Christian values are more important, then I think that you yourself as an American do not know what your country was founded on.
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Well I'm a Christian, and I clearly don't agree with some Republican policies. Therefore, the fault must lie with the people, and not the religion. Christianity as a religion is good. The people that make it up tend to mostly be people that keep shooting themselves in the foot and refusing to admit it. A minority are total fools and extremists, but that happens in every religion. Like Islam.

HOWEVER, that being said, it's true that policies should not always only cater for Christians. Sure they were founded on Judeo-Christian values, but the very first amendment to the Constitution demands a "Seperation of Church and State". This directly states that while the founding laws of America are based on Christianity, the rest of the laws shouldn't be drawn up just because they are in line with Christian beliefs. Would not basic human rights take precedence over Christian values? If you say that Christian values are more important, then I think that you yourself as an American do not know what your country was founded on.
Same here. My parents still wonder why I voted for Obama......
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