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View Poll Results: Which Facade combo?
Swellow combo 11 64.71%
Breloom combo 5 29.41%
Machamp combo 1 5.88%
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Old 08-16-2008, 05:33 PM
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Default Which Facade combo is better?

In your opinion, which of the following combo containing Facade is better?

Breloom w/ Poison Heal (ability) + Facade + Toxic Orb

Swellow w/ Guts (ability) + Facade + Toxic Orb

Machamp w/ Guts (ability) + Facade + Toxic Orb

I left Machamp out of the poll by accident. >_> If you vote for it, don't vote in the poll. XD
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Old 08-16-2008, 05:39 PM
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Default Re: Which Facade combo is better?

Breloom because Breloom doesn't fail with auto-Toxic.
Guts is for Sleeptalking.
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Old 08-16-2008, 05:40 PM
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Default Re: Which Facade combo is better?

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I left Machamp out of the poll by accident. >_> If you vote for it, don't vote in the poll. XD
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As for the combo, not really sure.
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Old 08-16-2008, 07:45 PM
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Default Re: Which Facade combo is better?

I like Swellow's, for obvious reasons. :L But aside from that, STAB on Facade and high speed is nice.
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Old 08-16-2008, 07:53 PM
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Default Re: Which Facade combo is better?

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I like Swellow's, for obvious reasons. :L But aside from that, STAB on Facade and high speed is nice.

Word to what he said.
Swellow's is the best, has the most power.

Machamp/breloom with facade is fail.
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Default Re: Which Facade combo is better?

Machamp's Guts-boosted Close Combat or Cross Chop out powers Facade. Breloom's Focus Punch is stronger than boosted Facade too.

Therefore, Swellow's Guts-boosted Facade is the best. :D
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Old 08-16-2008, 08:00 PM
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Default Re: Which Facade combo is better?

Swellow gets a nice STAB and can be a force to be reckoned with in UU.
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Old 08-16-2008, 08:43 PM
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I picked the Swellow one for already mentioned reasons.
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Old 08-16-2008, 09:24 PM
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Default Re: Which Facade combo is better?

I think the Breloom facade combo is better.
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Default Re: Which Facade combo is better?

Why would you use toxic orb on a guts pokemon?

I say swellow...
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Why would you use toxic orb on a guts pokemon?

I say swellow...
So it activates Guts and therefore boosts their attack power by 50%. And if you mean Toxic Orb over Flame Orb, then it depends. Toxic Orb is better for frail pokemon like Swellow considering it does less damage on the first two turns, and by then the chances are Swellow will be, or will almost be knocked out.

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Default Re: Which Facade combo is better?

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I like Swellow's, for obvious reasons. :L But aside from that, STAB on Facade and high speed is nice.
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Machamp's Guts-boosted Close Combat or Cross Chop out powers Facade. Breloom's Focus Punch is stronger than boosted Facade too.

Therefore, Swellow's Guts-boosted Facade is the best. :D
Yeah, what they said. I don't know why you'd put a Toxic Orb or Facade on a Machamp, anyways. It's better off just switching into sleeping moves with a Rest + Sleep Talk set. And usually No Guard is the better option...
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Old 08-17-2008, 01:23 AM
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Default Re: Which Facade combo is better?

When Machamp and Breloom have better sets to use, obviously Swellow is the top choice. I'd rather Clefable though, honestly. You can't be statused, and you get a STAB Facade to dent things with, and nothing sort of a really high power Fighting attack can OHKO you. Till then, you have Softboiled.
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Default Re: Which Facade combo is better?

Swellow is faster and gets stab, and basically what Leman and Calypso just said.
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Breloom's Facade combo, nuff said.
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