New: Official PE2k D/P/Pt/Hg/Ss Tier List - Pokemon Forum

Leman · #1 07-31-2008, 12:08 AM

The Offical DPPt Tier List of PE2K

Ubers:
Arceus
Darkrai
Deoxys
Deoxys-A
Deoxys-D
Deoxys-S
Dialga
Garchomp
Giratina-A
Giratina-O
Groudon
Ho-oh
Kyogre
Latias(SoulDew)
Latios(SoulDew)
Lugia
Mew
Mewtwo
Palkia
Rayquaza
Shaymin-S
Wobbuffet

OverUsed:
Azelf
Aerodactyl
Blissey
Breloom
Bronzong
Celebi
Cresselia
Dragonite
Dugtrio
Dusknoir
Electivire
Empoleon
Forretress
Flygon
Gallade
Gengar
Gliscor
Gyarados
Heatran
Heracross
Hippowdon
Infernape
Jirachi
Jolteon
Kingdra
Latias
Latios
Lucario
Machamp
Magnezone
Mamoswine
Manaphy
Metagross
Porygon-Z
Rotom-A
Salamence
Scizor
Skarmory
Snorlax
Starmie
Suicune
Swampert
Tentacruel
Togekiss
Tyranitar
Vaporeon
Weavile
Zapdos

Borderline:
Abomosnow
Crobat
Ninjask
Honchkrow
Porygon2
Raikou
Roserade
Shaymin-L
Smeargle
Staraptor
Wynaut
Yanmega

Underused:
Absol
Aggron
Altaria
Alakazam
Ambipom
Blaziken
Blastoise
Chansey
Charizard
Claydol
Clefable
Donphan
Drapion
Espeon
Feraligatr
Froslass
Gardevoir
Hariyama
Hitmonlee
Hitmontop
Houndoom
Kabutops
Kangaskhan
Lanturn
Ludicolo
Magmortar
Medicham
Mespirit
Milotic
Mismagius
Moltres
Muk
Nidoking
Nidoqueen
Omastar
Poliwrath
Regirock
Registeel
Rhyperior
Rotom
Sceptile
Scyther
Slowbro
Spiritomb
Steelix
Swellow
Tangrowth
Torterra
Toxicroak
Typhlosion
Venusaur
Walrein
Weezing
Uxie

NeverUsed:
Ampharos
Arbok
Articuno
Ariados
Armaldo
Bannete
Beautifly
Beedrill
Bibarel
Butterfree
Cacturne
Camerumpt
Castform
Cherrim
Chimecho
Chatot
Corsola
Clamperl
Cloyster
Corsola
Cradily
Delcatty
Delibird
Dewgong
Ditto
Dodrio
Driftblm
Dunsparce
Dusclops
Dustox
Electrode
Entei
Exeggutor
Exploud
Farfetch'd
Fearow
Flareon
Floatzel
Furret
Gabite
Gastrodon
Girafarig
Glaceon
Glalie
Golduck
Golem
Gorebyss
Granbull
Grumpig
Haunter
Hitmoncham
Huntail
Hypno
Jumpluff
Jynx
Illumise
Kadabra
Kecleon
Kingler
Kricketune
Leafeon
Ledian
Linoone
Lopunny
Lumineon
Lunatone
Luvdisc
Luxray
Magcargo
Magneton
Manetric
Mantine
Masquerain
Marowak
Mawile
Meganium
Miltank
Minun
Mightyena
Mothim
Muchlax
Noctowl
Ninetales
Octillery
Pachirisu
Parasect
Pelipper
Persian
Pidgeot
Phione
Pikachu
Pinsir
Plusle
Politoed
Probopass
Primeape
Purugly
Quagsire
Qwilfish
Raichu
Rampardos
Rapidash
Raticate
Regice
Regigigas
Relicanth
Rhydon
Sableye
Sandslash
Seaking
Seviper
Sharpedo
Shedinja
Shelgon
Shiftry
Shuckle
Skuntank
Slaking
Slowking
Solrock
Spinda
Stantler
Sudowoodo
Sunflora
Swalot
Tauros
Torkoal
Trapinch
Tropius
Unown
Ursaring
Venomoth
Vespiquen
Victreebel
Vileplume
Volbeat
Wailord
Whishcash
Wigglytuff
Wormadam [Grass]
Wormadam [Ground]
Wormadam [Steel]
Xatu
Zangoose

Hyper Blaze · #2 07-31-2008, 12:27 AM

Garchomp: Uber. Read this. http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36558

OU-BL: Aerodactyl, PorygonZ. Aero - BL. 59 in usage. P-Z - OU. 41 in usage.

BL-UU: Scyther, Pinsir. Both UU.

Also, Raikou is 86 in usage. Weezing is 60.

Leman · #3 07-31-2008, 02:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hyper Blaze

Garchomp: Uber. Read this. http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36558

OU-BL: Aerodactyl, PorygonZ. Aero - BL. 59 in usage. P-Z - OU. 41 in usage.

BL-UU: Scyther, Pinsir. Both UU.

Also, Raikou is 86 in usage. Weezing is 60.

You can't really base everything on usage. I mean, LO Aero is probably one of the best revenge killers this side of Deoxys.

Fire Away · #4 07-31-2008, 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leman

You can't really base everything on usage. I mean, LO Aero is probably one of the best revenge killers this side of Deoxys.

You have to base everything on usage. How can Aerodactyl be overused when it's used less than Umbreon? -_-

EDIT: Other than that, it all seems to be fine as far as I can tell. Thanks for posting this, Leman :o

Crazed One · #5 07-31-2008, 03:41 AM

What do you mean by 41 usage? Or 59 Usage?

Leman · #6 07-31-2008, 03:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zzz

What do you mean by 41 usage? Or 59 Usage?

Here

He means 41st most used Pokemon, or 59th most used Polemon.

I moved Raikou and Aerodactyl down. That SR lead is pretty prominent though, so I'm still not so sure on that.

Crazed One · #7 07-31-2008, 04:05 AM

Oh thanks, I didn't have a clue there for a bit.

Grassy_Aggron · #8 07-31-2008, 04:14 AM

Okay, I don't know much about this, as I've never done competitive play, but I think Garchomp should be an Overused pokemon. After all, it doesn't have the stats to match up to Arcues, plus its 4x weakness to Ice doesn't help much either. Killing an Uber with one hit? That would be sad...

Claona · #9 07-31-2008, 04:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grassy_Aggron

Okay, I don't know much about this, as I've never done competitive play, but I think Garchomp should be an Overused pokemon. After all, it doesn't have the stats to match up to Arcues, plus its 4x weakness to Ice doesn't help much either. Killing an Uber with one hit? That would be sad...

A Pokemon's preformance in Ubers has no effect on whether or not it is placed in the Uber tier, the simple fact that a Pokemon is broken in OU means it is moved to Ubers, and Garchomp is one of those Pokemon.

Cucumber · #10 07-31-2008, 04:59 AM

Trapinch for UU. I have seen it in multiple trick room teams and with correct Ev spreads can survive attacks and is a great UU revenge killer.

ronjocox · #11 07-31-2008, 05:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seanrocks126

Trapinch for UU. I have seen it in multiple trick room teams and with correct Ev spreads can survive attacks and is a great UU revenge killer.

Then Clamperl is UU too since it has over 500 SP ATK with tooth.

Cucumber · #12 07-31-2008, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronjocox

Then Clamperl is UU too since it has over 500 SP ATK with tooth.

I don't know much about Clamperl but I guess it makes since :P

Fire Away · #13 07-31-2008, 07:29 PM

What's Leafeon doing in BL? It's a longtime UU staple, and it has to compete with other grass types (notably Meganium) in that tier. It's definitely not what I'd call a huge threat to UU, as its moves get resisted all over the place, and Drapion will stop just about every set cold.

Same goes for Lopunny -- I almost think you putting it in BL is a mistake. All its got going for it is a slightly usable niche in Switcheroo/Klutz and decent speed, with average of below average everywhere else.

Hyper Blaze · #14 07-31-2008, 07:38 PM

Drapion is pretty fast and has decent attack. It should be BL.

Cucumber · #15 07-31-2008, 08:14 PM

I thought Medicham was BL? To be quit honest it's not that great there are plenty of better physical sweepers and his speed holds him back. He can be good at times but i think he fits more into the UU/BL tier.