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Old 02-07-2008, 04:43 AM
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Default Is the cloning code really hacking?

I want to know, on the basis of game code, is the action replay cloning code ACTUALLY hacking?

Please, I mean game code, not ethics. Don't use ethics too much.









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Old 02-07-2008, 04:53 AM
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Default Re: Is the cloning code really hacking?

It's not hacking. It's just copying and pasting a pokemons data.
It has been tested by hack checkers.
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Old 02-07-2008, 04:57 AM
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Default Re: Is the cloning code really hacking?

well thats a confusing subject and i dont it would be classed as hacking and what about the emerald cloning glitch would it screw up you game?
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Old 02-07-2008, 05:00 AM
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Default Re: Is the cloning code really hacking?

I beleive that:
Glitch cloning is fully legit.
Although may have screwed up game code.
It's possible.
Also I beleive that the ar cloning code might, leave hack traces on the code.
But that's forenzics.
And on/off switches don't have digital fingerprints and history.
Or do they?
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Old 02-07-2008, 05:16 AM
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Default Re: Is the cloning code really hacking?

Just because you can get away with it does not mean it isnt hacking, if you have to use a third party program to change code in somthing that is hacking any way you look at it. and if you don't use a third party program, it is bug abuse.
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Old 02-07-2008, 01:23 PM
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Default Re: Is the cloning code really hacking?

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I beleive that:
Glitch cloning is fully legit.
Although may have screwed up game code.
It's possible.
Also I beleive that the ar cloning code might, leave hack traces on the code.
But that's forenzics.
And on/off switches don't have digital fingerprints and history.
Or do they?
No I myself am a hack checker on Smogon there is no difference between an AR cloned pokemon with the pokemon it was cloned from. Everything however is based on opinion just like what Shadowmoon posted above.
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Old 02-07-2008, 02:09 PM
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Default Re: Is the cloning code really hacking?

Well, cloning is a good way to obtain copies of mons you already have, and I think it's legit. However, it ruins the point of the game from my point of view. I aim on actually working for the Pokemon. Cloning might glitch your game a bit, but I don't know about that because I've never cloned on my Diamond cartridge, only in my Emerald cartridge. That never messed up, but that could've just been chance. So if you wanna clone, go ahead. I won't stop you, unless I "accidentally" persuade you with my next words: I dislike cloning.

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Old 02-07-2008, 06:25 PM
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Default Re: Is the cloning code really hacking?

So far, it looks like cloning is an exact copy of the pokemon game code.
And NOT a tampered one.
I clone.
Why do I clone? It's not beacause I want to wreck the game. It's so that when there is a good pokemon, people all around can have it, and trade for it.
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Default Re: Is the cloning code really hacking?

My personal opinion, its hacking, but it does not harm the game. Everything you use with AR is hacking, but there two different outcomes that happens to the game after you hack: not harmful or harmful. Codes like cloning, iv checking, quick egg hatch (maybe), inifinate amount of items is not harmful to the game. But codes that change the games boundaries like walk anywhere or catch other trainers pokemon is harmful to the game and might make it crash. Pokesav pokes are ok if you got them from someone else, because every pokemon are legit, but you didn't get them in a legit way, so I would say pokesav is between it just depends on what you do with it. thats my opinion and I am studing to become a video game designer so....
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