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Old 12-30-2007, 03:13 AM
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Observe the following law:

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The larger a mechanical device is, the faster it moves. Armored Mecha are the fastest objects known to human science.
Can Gundam break the mold of this law?
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Yes he can. For one, there isn't a source provided to support the statement, so we cannot prove the real fact of that point. For two, Armored Mecha are not the fastest objects known to human science. Weight drags one down, and with armor... o.0

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Yes, he can break his own law. Take a motorbike, for example. In a a 1 mile race, a motorbike could easily beat a tank.
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Yes, he can break his own law. Take a motorbike, for example. In a a 1 mile race, a motorbike could easily beat a tank.
No. He cannot....

First off, it is stated as a Law, and in a scientific definition, a law is known as something that has been proven true after multiple tests and experiments. We know for a fact that it is, in fact, the fastest thing....

Also, in Craney's example, here is something to counter and disprove your theory:

Weight means squat when the object has an extraordinary amount of power/force pushing it forward. A jet, while tons heavier than a motorbike, is worlds faster. Therefore, if the vehicle has a vast amount of engine power, it can easily overcome the obstacle of weight.

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No. He cannot....

First off, it is stated as a Law, and in a scientific definition, a law is known as something that has been proven true after multiple tests and experiments. We know for a fact that it is, in fact, the fastest thing....

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There isn't any proof to show that the 'law' in the quote is all but the truth, so it may just be a quoted piece of words written by just anyone without mutiple tests and experiments.

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Weight means squat when the object has an extraordinary amount of power/force pushing it forward. A jet, while tons heavier than a motorbike, is worlds faster. Therefore, if the vehicle has a vast amount of engine power, it can easily overcome the obstacle of weight.
Wouldn't a portal be far more faster that way? It's way more lighter, totally armorless, and belongs partly to mechnical devices. After all, it is part of Anime Motion, stated in the so called law.
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No. He cannot....

First off, it is stated as a Law, and in a scientific definition, a law is known as something that has been proven true after multiple tests and experiments. We know for a fact that it is, in fact, the fastest thing....

Also, in Craney's example, here is something to counter and disprove your theory:

Weight means squat when the object has an extraordinary amount of power/force pushing it forward. A jet, while tons heavier than a motorbike, is worlds faster. Therefore, if the vehicle has a vast amount of engine power, it can easily overcome the obstacle of weight.

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But did you know what the tests were? Do you know what the outcome was?

And the law doesn't state that heavy objects have bigger engine
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But did you know what the tests were? Do you know what the outcome was?
Ummm... hello! Obviously we do know what the outcome of the tests were, because they are stated in the first post. It wouldn't have been able to take the title of a Law unless the outcomes of the tests matched the initial post:

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Law of Mechanical Mobility, Second Law of Anime Motion

The larger a mechanical device is, the faster it moves. Armored Mecha are the fastest objects known to human science.
And on this statement:

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And the law doesn't state that heavy objects have bigger engine

I feel like something like this doesn't even deserve a response, but here:

First of all, the law doesn't say that they even have an engine at all. Of course it is implied with the word "mechanical", but it doesn't say it directly. My response to Ataro, with the plane vs. motorcycle example wasn't addressing the fact that "what has a bigger engine moves faster", No. I was simply telling him that it doesnt matter about weight in comparison to speed

So overall, your post was completely irrelevant, because it had nothing to do with what any of us were talking about.

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Ummm... hello! Obviously we do know what the outcome of the tests were, because they are stated in the first post. It wouldn't have been able to take the title of a Law unless the outcomes of the tests matched the initial post:



And on this statement:




I feel like something like this doesn't even deserve a response, but here:

First of all, the law doesn't say that they even have an engine at all. Of course it is implied with the word "mechanical", but it doesn't say it directly. My response to Ataro, with the plane vs. motorcycle example wasn't addressing the fact that "what has a bigger engine moves faster", No. I was simply telling him that it doesnt matter about weight in comparison to speed

So overall, your post was completely irrelevant, because it had nothing to do with what any of us were talking about.

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No...Read my first post too, how would you know how true the quote is from? There are no sources stated anywhere or whatsoever.

Weight does matter in comparison to speed, the heavier the object it is, the slower it moves. Now, motorcycle and plane, they have the engines, so it is another factor that affects the speed. How about putting in the same motor, structure and whatsoever into building all types of vechicles and compare them? They are having many factors the affect the speed differently, the aeroplane/jet flies fast because of it's almost streamlined body with the 'wings' spread out, like a bird to increase the flying altitude. In fact, its not even weight that affects, it is mainly mass.

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Ummm... hello! Obviously we do know what the outcome of the tests were, because they are stated in the first post. It wouldn't have been able to take the title of a Law unless the outcomes of the tests matched the initial post:



And on this statement:




I feel like something like this doesn't even deserve a response, but here:

First of all, the law doesn't say that they even have an engine at all. Of course it is implied with the word "mechanical", but it doesn't say it directly. My response to Ataro, with the plane vs. motorcycle example wasn't addressing the fact that "what has a bigger engine moves faster", No. I was simply telling him that it doesnt matter about weight in comparison to speed

So overall, your post was completely irrelevant, because it had nothing to do with what any of us were talking about.

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Okay. Let's take a man. We clone him so he's got the excact same speed as the clone. We give one clone a heavy shopping bag, and the other nothing.

The person with nothing should be faster.
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Okay. Let's take a man. We clone him so he's got the excact same speed as the clone. We give one clone a heavy shopping bag, and the other nothing.

The person with nothing should be faster.
OOC: :) I felt I had to join this debate somehow...

IC (or whatever): Well, it would make sense that the person with nothing would move faster, but what if he was shot?! Seriously. We could take the position that these mechas, or whatever other example you might come up with, are broken down. Obvoiusly, the Iron Giant (from that movie) moves faster than a Roombah vacuum, but what if there was some kind of electrical problem inside the Giant's inner core? Is the Giant going to be doing much moving? No.
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Now, the first statement is wrong.

Anyway...first of all guys...by weight you're talking about Momentum. never mind right now, I'll explain.

Momentum's mass*velocity. P=MV. Everybody continues in its state of rest or uniform motion supported by Momentum, unless acted upon by an externam unbalanced deforming force, or direction changing force.
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No...Read my first post too, how would you know how true the quote is from? There are no sources stated anywhere or whatsoever.

Weight does matter in comparison to speed, the heavier the object it is, the slower it moves. Now, motorcycle and plane, they have the engines, so it is another factor that affects the speed. How about putting in the same motor, structure and whatsoever into building all types of vechicles and compare them? They are having many factors the affect the speed differently, the aeroplane/jet flies fast because of it's almost streamlined body with the 'wings' spread out, like a bird to increase the flying altitude. In fact, its not even weight that affects, it is mainly mass.

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No, it doesn't. Talk about a Space Shuttle. It can go at 18,000 miles an hour{Mach 20+}, whereas fighter planes can go up to about Mach 1 to Mach 2{Eurofighter's about Mach 1.1} even though they're lighter.

And even if you put a jet engine on a commerical craft, it won't make much of a difference, it can't go beyond Mach 0.84

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Yes he can. For one, there isn't a source provided to support the statement, so we cannot prove the real fact of that point. For two, Armored Mecha are not the fastest objects known to human science. Weight drags one down, and with armor... o.0

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Weight can't necessarily drag a person down, momentum can play a role, depending on air and wind resistance. And then again, compare a compact car and a SUV, in terms of speed.
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No. He cannot....

First off, it is stated as a Law, and in a scientific definition, a law is known as something that has been proven true after multiple tests and experiments.
...

Can you explain Charles Darin's Law? The law of Centripetal Force? The law of Cartesian Coordinates? None of them are proved....but they are accepted as laws. There are several such laws.

Also, in Craney's example, here is something to counter and disprove your theory:

Weight means squat when the object has an extraordinary amount of power/force pushing it forward. A jet, while tons heavier than a motorbike, is worlds faster. Therefore, if the vehicle has a vast amount of engine power, it can easily overcome the obstacle of weight.

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Partly true. Even if you put a load of Engines on the Queen Mary, it won't be able to move very fast. I doubt that QM's a little tug boat.

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There isn't any proof to show that the 'law' in the quote is all but the truth, so it may just be a quoted piece of words written by just anyone without mutiple tests and experiments.

Wouldn't a portal be far more faster that way? It's way more lighter, totally armorless, and belongs partly to mechnical devices. After all, it is part of Anime Motion, stated in the so called law.
Portals don't exist, unless you're talking about slip space structures. Then again, if you consider the universe in line with Cartesian coordinate system with matter and anti-matter system, they could.

However, it depends where the portals takes you, since there will be fluidity between matter and time.

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Ummm... hello! Obviously we do know what the outcome of the tests were, because they are stated in the first post. It wouldn't have been able to take the title of a Law unless the outcomes of the tests matched the initial post:
But it has.
And on this statement:


I feel like something like this doesn't even deserve a response, but here:

First of all, the law doesn't say that they even have an engine at all. Of course it is implied with the word "mechanical", but it doesn't say it directly. My response to Ataro, with the plane vs. motorcycle example wasn't addressing the fact that "what has a bigger engine moves faster", No. I was simply telling him that it doesnt matter about weight in comparison to speed

So overall, your post was completely irrelevant, because it had nothing to do with what any of us were talking about.

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Hate to say this, but agreed.

But all the same, weight can make a difference in outer space, where combustion engines don't work...and you have to rely on your own momentum to hurtle forward.
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IC (or whatever): Well, it would make sense that the person with nothing would move faster, but what if he was shot?! Seriously. We could take the position that these mechas, or whatever other example you might come up with, are broken down. Obvoiusly, the Iron Giant (from that movie) moves faster than a Roombah vacuum, but what if there was some kind of electrical problem inside the Giant's inner core? Is the Giant going to be doing much moving? No.
Well, lets take it this way.

Consider two people going down a steep slope.

One has something very heavy in his hands. Obviously, he moves faster. Even on a skating rink, the heavier person'll move faster, since nyu's the constant of friction, the frictional value'll have to be verified.

Also, what about electrons and protons moving around? They move at the speed of light, though they're tiny. {Eg: Gamma rays}

So I'd like to finish: The size and weight of a mechanical device is not proportional or influential on the velocity of a particle or a body, which has a constant mass.
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Portals don't exist, unless you're talking about slip space structures. Then again, if you consider the universe in line with Cartesian coordinate system with matter and anti-matter system, they could.

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