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Civy · #1 10-10-2007, 11:27 PM

Well, this is my third Pokemon pearl team...
I find it great, but I need advices or some comments as I'll try to do some french tournaments !

But please, I WANT NO BLISSEY OR NO SKARMORY IN MY TEAM.
I have enough of it. It's bored to see that a lot of personn are using the same combo for defense...
Thx for not posting about Skarbliss in this thread.

Here is my team :

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Gengar @ Choice spcs - Levitation -
Nature : Timid

Focus Blast
Sludge Bomb
Energy Ball
Shadow Ball

My special sweeper. I train it just on Speed Ev, she (yep, female

gengar) must attack first for giving the most damage or... DIE.

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Garchomp @ Life Orb
Nature : Jolly

Earthquake
Fire Fang
Swords Dance
Dragon Claw

Physical Sweeper / Sword Dancer.

My last Garchomp was not Speed EV trained and I seriously regretted

this.. So here my new jolly Garchomp !
Full speed, same strategy as Gengar !

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Vaporeon @ leftovers - Water Absorb -
Nature : Bold
Surf
Protect
Wish
Roar

Wisher/Staller.
Not original I admit, but so greaaaat.

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Bronzong @ Light Clay - Levitation -
Nature : Bold

LightScreen
Psyko
Explosion
Stealth Rock

Nothing more to say about it.

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Meganium @ leftovers
Nature : Bold
Aromatherapy
Synthesis
Leech Seed
EnergyBall

Yeah, great for this !
But I have some difficulties with the #@]~! Heracross.

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Snorlax @ Leftovers
Nature : Calm
Return
Rest
Thunderpunch
Curse

Well... This is Snorlax ! 8)

Spongebob Number One Fan · #2 10-10-2007, 11:49 PM

Fire blast over fire fang on garchomp to deal with skarm...

And EQ on snorlax please...or crunch. Doesn't haze accomplish what roar does on vaporeon?

Civy · #3 10-11-2007, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Spongebob Number One Fan

Fire blast over fire fang on garchomp to deal with skarm...

And EQ on snorlax please...or crunch. Doesn't haze accomplish what roar does on vaporeon?

Omg...
Fire Blast on Physical Sweeper ? I sure will have difficulty with Skarmory, but Fire Blast is certainly the worst choice. Moreover, it has only 5 PP...
Thanks, but... No.

And yeah, Haze do the same think as Roar, but Roar can prevent you from Pokemon you can't kill with Surf.

Leman · #4 10-11-2007, 12:33 AM

Put EVs in please. =/

Fire Away · #5 10-11-2007, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Civy

Omg...
Fire Blast on Physical Sweeper ? I sure will have difficulty with Skarmory, but Fire Blast is certainly the worst choice. Moreover, it has only 5 PP...
Thanks, but... No.

And yeah, Haze do the same think as Roar, but Roar can prevent you from Pokemon you can't kill with Surf.

It was actually a valid suggestion, since Fire Blast will hurt Skarm WAY more than his sad little Fire Fang.

Black Label · #6 10-11-2007, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Fire Away

It was actually a valid suggestion, since Fire Blast will hurt Skarm WAY more than his sad little Fire Fang.

did you read what he said? PHYSICAL sweeper. even with fire fang he will do fine against skarm

Pikablu Pie · #7 10-11-2007, 02:59 AM

Plus, fire blast just sucks. Too low PP, even with PP upping, and the accuracy is lame.

Spongebob Number One Fan · #8 10-11-2007, 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Killer Bagon

did you read what he said? PHYSICAL sweeper. even with fire fang he will do fine against skarm

Not so much. Skarm shrugs off fire fang pretty well...fire blast is a 2HKO...wow, no one has heard of chain chomp? Wow...supereffective isn't everything you know. Skarm can take fire fang. It will roar away your SDes unless you can immediately threaten it.

Thunderbolt>energy ball on gengar. And consider hypnosis...though you'd have to take out choice specs.

EDIT: Really ,fire bnlast is good on garchomp. Ever heard of mixedmence? Same concept here. Fire fang allows garchomp to get walled by ANYTHING that can take a physical hit...wow.

Leman · #9 10-11-2007, 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Spongebob Number One Fan

Not so much. Skarm shrugs off fire fang pretty well...fire blast is a 2HKO...wow, no one has heard of chain chomp? Wow...supereffective isn't everything you know. Skarm can take fire fang. It will roar away your SDes unless you can immediately threaten it.

Well Fire Fang is better because Skarmory switches into Garchomp, and that means he can get a Swords Dance in, and then Fire FAng to KO and continue sweeping.

Thunderbolt>energy ball on gengar. And consider hypnosis...though you'd have to take out choice specs.

EDIT: Really ,fire bnlast is good on garchomp. Ever heard of mixedmence? Same concept here. Fire fang allows garchomp to get walled by ANYTHING that can take a physical hit...wow.

In the quote. =/

Flygon Ruler · #10 10-11-2007, 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Spongebob Number One Fan

Not so much. Skarm shrugs off fire fang pretty well...fire blast is a 2HKO...wow, no one has heard of chain chomp? Wow...supereffective isn't everything you know. Skarm can take fire fang. It will roar away your SDes unless you can immediately threaten it.

Thunderbolt>energy ball on gengar. And consider hypnosis...though you'd have to take out choice specs.

EDIT: Really ,fire bnlast is good on garchomp. Ever heard of mixedmence? Same concept here. Fire fang allows garchomp to get walled by ANYTHING that can take a physical hit...wow.

Well, I agree that Garchomp is best with Fang. Lax should have EQ or Crunch. Gengar is good with hypnosis.

T-bolt over Energy Ball. I don't know much about the others...

Spongebob Number One Fan · #11 10-11-2007, 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Leman

In the quote. =/

Maybe so, but skarm has roar =/ It can roar you away. Being a skarm user myself, that's what I'd do...it's common sense. Any skarm can shrug off the hit, if it even takes one, and can roar chomp away. Since fire's best type it defeats is steel, you might as well use a special attack, since most steels have high Def but poor SDef...with a few exceptions, but yeah.

Maybe not overall, but for beating skarm at least, fire blast remains the better choice. For an all-out phys. sweep, of course you choose fire fang. I just don't like going up against skarmbliss and getting destroyed. Fire blast takes out other steel walls, like forry and steeelix.

Sure, fire fang has more power on chomp, but I prefer fire blast...it has worked better for me. Use what you want, just sharing my opinion. 2HKOing skarm is nothing all too bad ya know. Really, what does fire fang hit? EQ covers steels, skarm still takes minimal damage, and dragon claw covers LOTS of stuff...I just see fire fang as being unnecessary. That's just me though. sorry, but IMO, fire blast>fire fang to not get walled by everything skarm.

But meh, opinions are what keeps these forums alive and well, am I wrong?

SoliX · #12 10-11-2007, 06:05 AM

Get rid of Sludge Bomb on Gengar, it isn't very good coverage wise. You stab Shadow Ball as is, Tbolt would have the same effect, but more type coverage.

Civy · #13 10-11-2007, 09:24 AM

Wow, thanks all for replies !

Mmm, well... Sure that Skarmory will be a problem... ('cause everyone will choose him agains t a physical sweeper...).

EDIT : After consideration, Fire Blast is great for Garchomp... It's surprising for the opponent and pretty cool against staller !
Draco Meteor can also be a good choise...
So I decided to put :

Sword Dance
Earth Quake
Fire Blast
DracoMeteor... Or Dragon Claw for 2 physical attacks...

Juste EQ is here for physical attack

I think that my team have others problems...
Meganium can be killed by Fire, Ice and Fly attacks.
And I have already Fire and Ice weakness : Bronzong and Garchomp (OHKO).

Should I take Meganium or not ?
Well it has aromatherapy but...

I think I should have Pokemon with Fly or Ice attack no ?
A pokemon with Air Slash or Aerial Ace would be great... (and so I can remove Sludge Bomb, as I use it just againt Ludicolo).

A fighting attack is also lacking...

And is my Snorlax as useful as people said ?
I never use it in match, I just finished to train it...

Anyway, I'm sure of one think, my Vaporeon is great xD (defense & HP EV :P)

If you have any proposition, I'm ready to kick some Poke for others ^^ !

Spongebob Number One Fan · #14 10-12-2007, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Civy

Wow, thanks all for replies !

Mmm, well... Sure that Skarmory will be a problem... ('cause everyone will choose him agains t a physical sweeper...).

EDIT : After consideration, Fire Blast is great for Garchomp... It's surprising for the opponent and pretty cool against staller !
Draco Meteor can also be a good choise...
So I decided to put :

Sword Dance
Earth Quake
Fire Blast
DracoMeteor... Or Dragon Claw for 2 physical attacks...

Juste EQ is here for physical attack

I think that my team have others problems...
Meganium can be killed by Fire, Ice and Fly attacks.
And I have already Fire and Ice weakness : Bronzong and Garchomp (OHKO).

Should I take Meganium or not ?
Well it has aromatherapy but...

I think I should have Pokemon with Fly or Ice attack no ?
A pokemon with Air Slash or Aerial Ace would be great... (and so I can remove Sludge Bomb, as I use it just againt Ludicolo).

A fighting attack is also lacking...

And is my Snorlax as useful as people said ?
I never use it in match, I just finished to train it...

Anyway, I'm sure of one think, my Vaporeon is great xD (defense & HP EV :P)

If you have any proposition, I'm ready to kick some Poke for others ^^ !

Well, I'm actually not crzy about draco meteor on Chomp. Dragon Calw is much better IMO. Besides, SD is kind of a waste with only one physical attack.

Calm is terrible on snorlax since you take away its great attack...careful is better.

Synthesis is a waste on Meganium...snadstrom/sandstream=defeat. Blissey is a better heal beller anyways, but meganium is okay. Still, you have a big fire weak, you might wanna forget meganium.

Any team without ice beam isn't a good team. And I mean a STRONG ice beamer, so blissey doesn't count. HP ice works on gengar if you're patient.

Civy · #15 10-12-2007, 10:52 PM

Ice Beam ?

Donphan with Ice shards is great, no ? :D