Give some suggestions

[Gold Groudon]

Hello again, i have been working on a perfect team and i have got my BPer, Physical sweepers and sp. sweeper. I need help on my walls: Mantine and steelix.

So far i have:

Steelix@leftovers
Sturdy
Impish(252hp,200def,58atk)
Stealth Rock
Roar
Gyro Ball
Rest

And..

Mantine@leftovers
Water absorb
Calm(252hp,200sp.def,58sp.atk)
Haze
Aqua ring
Surf
Ice beam


Rate away.

[Cool Kid 94]

Steelix@Leftovers
Sturdy
Relaxed (252 HP, 252 Def, 4 Atk)
-Stealth Rock
-Gyro Ball
-Roar
-Rest/Explosion

Something like that... I looked it up.

Mantine@Leftovers
Water Absorb
Calm (252 HP, 192 Sp. Def, 64 Sp. Atk)

And I already gave you the moveset for Mantine.

[TatankaToT]

Originally Posted by Gold Groudon

Hello again, i have been working on a perfect team and i have got my BPer, Physical sweepers and sp. sweeper. I need help on my walls: Mantine and steelix.

So far i have:

Steelix@leftovers
rock head
Impish(252hp,200atk,58atk)
Stealth Rock
Roar
Earthquake
rest/Double edge

And..

Mantine@leftovers
water absorb (requires prediction)
calm~(252hp,200sp.def,58sp.atk
Haze
Aqua ring
Surf
toxic/confuse ray


Rate away.

in bold, do you honestly not have a sweeper with ice beam?

[Somebody Else]

I am guessing you mean 200Def for Steelix...

If you can get Mud Sport onto Mantine then give it an Electric-attack-reducing berry, it is very tough. However Leftovers is probably more useful in general than that berry.

[Gold Groudon]

Yes i ment defense on steelix, i will change it.

I just used ice beam becuse it was suggested to me by CK, however toxic works well.

I will use a steelix like this i think:

Steelix@Leftovers
Sturdy
Relaxed(252hp,252def,6atk)
Stealth Rock
Roar
Gyro ball
Rest

What does rock head do? Why a relaxed nature do again?

and Then mantine:

Mantine@Leftovers
Water Absorb
Calm(252hp,192sp.def,64sp.atk)
Haze
Aqua Ring
Surf
Toxic

[TatankaToT]

rock head makes it so that no recoil damage is received from a recoil inducing move, Double edge is pretty nasty with rock head.

[Cool Kid 94]

Originally Posted by Gold Groudon

Yes i ment defense on steelix, i will change it.

I just used ice beam becuse it was suggested to me by CK, however toxic works well.

I will use a steelix like this i think:

Steelix@Leftovers
Sturdy
Relaxed(252hp,252def,6atk)
Stealth Rock
Roar
Gyro ball
Rest

What does rock head do? Why a relaxed nature do again?

and Then mantine:

Mantine@Leftovers
Water Absorb
Calm(252hp,192sp.def,64sp.atk)
Haze
Aqua Ring
Surf
Toxic

Rock Head makes you not get recoil from an attack. That's why he suggested it. I think Ice Beam is more needed than Toxic, it would be better anyways...

[Hyper Blaze]

Originally Posted by Gold Groudon

Hello again, i have been working on a perfect team and i have got my BPer, Physical sweepers and sp. sweeper. I need help on my walls: Mantine and steelix.

So far i have:

Steelix@leftovers
Sturdy
Impish(252hp,200def,58atk)
Stealth Rock
Roar
Gyro Ball
Rest

And..

Mantine@leftovers
Water absorb
Calm(252hp,200sp.def,58sp.atk)
Haze
Aqua ring
Surf
Ice beam


Rate away.

Steelix@Shed Shell
Relaxed
252 HP, 252 Defense, 6 Attack
~Gyro Ball
~Roar
~Stealth Rock
~Rest/Filler

Mantine@Lefties
Calm
252 HP, 64 Sp. Attack, 192 Sp. Defense
~Mud Sport
~Haze
~Ice Beam
~Surf

[ronjocox]

Originally Posted by Hyper Blaze

Mantine@Lefties
Calm
252 HP, 64 Sp. Attack, 192 Sp. Defense
~Mud Sport
~Haze
~Ice Beam
~Surf

Mud Sport is useless.

You need toxic to deal with other water types.

[Hyper Blaze]

Originally Posted by ronjocox

Mud Sport is useless.

You need toxic to deal with other water types.

Oh, I wasn't sure about it.

[Gold Groudon]

No offense HB but i prefer Aqua ring for HP recovery>electric defense which kill me anyway.

[Cool Kid 94]

Originally Posted by Gold Groudon

No offense HB but i prefer Aqua ring for HP recovery>electric defense which kill me anyway.

Special Attack Electric doesn't kill Mantine, go look up its stats.

Toxic > Aqua Ring I guess. You need Haze and Ice Beam, and of course, Surf. Aqua Ring is a kinda unnecessary HP restoral move, while Toxic would be better (contradiciting my other suggestion lol).