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Old 09-08-2007, 02:59 AM
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Default RMT competitive.

I made some changes from the last RMT thread I made,


*Mixed Sweeper*
Electivire @Life Orb
Ability: Motor Drive
Nature: Naughty
Evs: 252Atk//176spd//80SAtk
- Thunder Bolt
- Ice Punch
- Earthquake
- Cross Chop
I don't know for the nature here. Naughty for more power or Hasty too outspeed Salamence? Any suggestions?

*Choice Bander*
Arcanine @Choice Band
Ability: Intimidate
Nature: Jolly
Evs: 252Atk//252spd//6HP
- Flare Blitz
- Extremespeed
- Crunch
- Thunder Fang

*Special Sweeper//Rapid Spinner*
Starmie @Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
Nature: Modest
Evs: 236SAtk//56HP//216Spd
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Thunder Bolt
- Rapid Spin
252/252 Evs Distribution would be better but I already made him and I don't feel like restarting -_-... Aw well, it makes him a little bulky.

*Special Sweeper//Special Sponge*
Togekiss @Leftovers
Ability: Serene Grace
Nature: Calm
Evs: 252HP//140SDef//112SAtk//6spd
- Air Slash
- Grass Knot
- Thunder Wave
- Roost
Grass Knot for my Swampert Weakness. But I really don't know for the EVS. I want him to sponge.

*Tank*
Dusknoir @Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
Nature: Careful
Evs: 252Hp//140SDef//112Atk//6Def
- Ice Punch//T-Punch
- Will-o-wisp
- Pain Split
- Shadow Sneak

*Physical Sweeper//DDancer*
Dragonite @Leftovers
Evs:252Atk//252spd//6Hp
Ability: Inner Focus
Nature: Adamant
- Dragon Claw
- Earthquake
- Thunder Punch//Aqua Rail
- Dragon Dance
Aqua Tail is for my DDance Tyranitar weakness.
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Old 09-08-2007, 02:14 PM
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Default Re: RMT competitive.

Electrivire should be a Physical Sweeper... you don't need a Mixed and a Special. so:

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Electrivire @ Life Orb
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Adamant/Jolly Nature
EVs: 252 Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP
Motor Drive

- Thunderpunch
- Ice Punch
- Earthquake
- Brick Break/Cross Chop

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Old 09-08-2007, 03:46 PM
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Electrivire should be a Physical Sweeper... you don't need a Mixed and a Special. so:

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Electrivire @ Life Orb
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Adamant/Jolly Nature
EVs: 252 Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP
Motor Drive

- Thunderpunch
- Ice Punch
- Earthquake
- Brick Break/Cross Chop

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Yes, I need a mixed sweeper for Skarmbliss counter.
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Old 09-08-2007, 04:52 PM
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Default Re: RMT competitive.

Naughty/Lonley both work just as well on Vire.

You have no real physical wall. I suggest replacing either Dusknoir with a physical wall version, or using Rhyperior or Bulky Gara over Arcanine/Dragonite.

You don't need Aqua Tail for Ttar. He has a weakness to Earthquake, so it'll be doing more damage then AT every time.
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Old 09-08-2007, 05:38 PM
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Default Re: RMT competitive.

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Originally Posted by Prince J View Post
I made some changes from the last RMT thread I made,


*Mixed Sweeper*
Electivire @Life Orb
Ability: Motor Drive
Nature: Naughty
Evs: 252Atk//176spd//80SAtk
- Thunder Bolt
- Ice Punch
- Earthquake
- Cross Chop
I don't know for the nature here. Naughty for more power or Hasty too outspeed Salamence? Any suggestions?

IMO HAsty, so it can beat all those 100 base speed mobns, especially GArchomp.


*Choice Bander*
Arcanine @Choice Band
Ability: Intimidate
Nature: Jolly
Evs: 252Atk//252spd//6HP
- Flare Blitz
- Extremespeed
- Howl
- Thunder Fang

Crunch hits nothing so HOwl.


*Special Sweeper//Rapid Spinner*
Starmie @Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
Nature: Modest
Evs: 236SAtk//56HP//216Spd
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Thunder Bolt
- Rapid Spin
252/252 Evs Distribution would be better but I already made him and I don't feel like restarting -_-... Aw well, it makes him a little bulky.

Acctually this is fine,


*Special Sweeper//Special Sponge*
Togekiss @Leftovers
Ability: Serene Grace
Nature: Calm
Evs: 252HP//140SDef//112SAtk//6spd
- Air Slash
- Grass Knot
- Thunder Wave
- Roost
Grass Knot for my Swampert Weakness. But I really don't know for the EVS. I want him to sponge.

Fine


*Tank*
Dusknoir @Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
Nature: Careful
Evs: 252Hp//140SDef//112Atk//6Def
- Ice Punch//T-Punch
- Will-o-wisp
- Pain Split
- Shadow Sneak

I'd usee 252 HP/ 100 SDef/ 116 Def/ 36 Atk, and Ice Punch.


*Physical Sweeper//DDancer*
Dragonite @Leftovers
Evs:252Atk//252spd//6Hp
Ability: Inner Focus
Nature: Adamant
- Dragon Claw
-Focus Punch
- Thunder Punch
- Dragon Dance
Aqua Tail is for my DDance Tyranitar weakness.

IMO FOcus Punch is a better T-tar killer. I'd use that >EQ and T-Punch>Aqua Tail

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Old 09-08-2007, 05:52 PM
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@Leman: Howl won't work on a CB Arcanine.
@ Cybernatic: Will-o-wisp with Dusknoir makes him a good physical wall.
And will Cross Chop from a Naughty nature Vire will OHKO TTar? It will be a 480 base power since he is 4x weakness.

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Old 09-08-2007, 05:56 PM
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@Leman: Howl won't work on a CB Arcanine.
@ Cybernatic: Will-o-wisp with Dusknoir makes him a good physical wall.
And will Cross Chop from a Naughty nature Vire will OHKO TTar? It will be a 480 base power since he is 4x weakness.
Take off the CB on arcanine then...and give it life orb or something. CC probably OHKOs TTar, but Vire gets OHKOed itself by EQ I believe.
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Old 09-08-2007, 05:57 PM
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I knew that. Nvm that then.
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Old 09-08-2007, 06:31 PM
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@Leman: Howl won't work on a CB Arcanine.
@ Cybernatic: Will-o-wisp with Dusknoir makes him a good physical wall.
And will Cross Chop from a Naughty nature Vire will OHKO TTar? It will be a 480 base power since he is 4x weakness.
WoW makes him a good physical wall after he is in and it hits. He can't switch into physical attacks as easily as some other things with basically no defense EVs.
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Old 09-08-2007, 06:58 PM
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Take off the CB on arcanine then...and give it life orb or something. CC probably OHKOs TTar, but Vire gets OHKOed itself by EQ I believe.
No, I want to keep CB since I want to OHKO any special sweeper that has low defense (Alakazam >_>) with Extremespeed.

@Cybernetic: I can put some EVS in defense then. and a Impish nature
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Old 09-08-2007, 07:33 PM
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No, I want to keep CB since I want to OHKO any special sweeper that has low defense (Alakazam >_>) with Extremespeed.

@Cybernetic: I can put some EVS in defense then. and a Impish nature
That'd work. I'd still suggest putting a Bulky Gyara in place of Dnite though, as Taunt can wreck his counters and he works great with Electivire.

Oh, and maybe Expert Belt on Vire. He hits like 13 or 14/17 types SE.
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Old 09-08-2007, 08:13 PM
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That'd work. I'd still suggest putting a Bulky Gyara in place of Dnite though, as Taunt can wreck his counters and he works great with Electivire.

Oh, and maybe Expert Belt on Vire. He hits like 13 or 14/17 types SE.
Yeah, I know that Gyarados is very very strong but that's why everyones use him. I want to be a little different. It's like saying; Why Togekiss? Put Blissey.
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Old 09-08-2007, 08:32 PM
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Yeah, I know that Gyarados is very very strong but that's why everyones use him. I want to be a little different. It's like saying; Why Togekiss? Put Blissey.
Already knew you were trying to be a bit diffrent, but eh. Your still using Arcanine, Togekiss, and Dusknoir isn't getting THAT much use.

GyaraVire is a great combo, and your still using Vire, who gets a ton of use lol.

If your trying to be a original, idk, I'd go full orginality. Smogon has a battle log of a mono bug team winning against a standered team.
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Old 09-08-2007, 09:03 PM
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Already knew you were trying to be a bit diffrent, but eh. Your still using Arcanine, Togekiss, and Dusknoir isn't getting THAT much use.

GyaraVire is a great combo, and your still using Vire, who gets a ton of use lol.

If your trying to be a original, idk, I'd go full orginality. Smogon has a battle log of a mono bug team winning against a standered team.
My electric type in Silver//Ruby//FR was always Electabuzz. I wanted Vire before I knew about those OU,UU,BL thing. I chose him because I liked him. I chose the pokemon that I liked and looked strong. I'm not denying the fact that Gyara is strong but I'm trying to do a good team with the pokemon I chose.
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Old 09-08-2007, 09:38 PM
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My electric type in Silver//Ruby//FR was always Electabuzz. I wanted Vire before I knew about those OU,UU,BL thing. I chose him because I liked him. I chose the pokemon that I liked and looked strong. I'm not denying the fact that Gyara is strong but I'm trying to do a good team with the pokemon I chose.
Eh. Thats fine then.

Then yeah, go with Impish and move defensive EVs. He shouldn't be walling Specials very often anyways, as he dosn't have anything to really hamper them.
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