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Old 08-29-2007, 08:12 PM
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Default RMT competitive

Gliscor@Leftovers
Impish
252 HP 252 Def 6 Atk
Moveset:
Roost
Aerial Ace
Earthquake
Stealth Rock

Hariyama@Flame Orb
Adamant
252 Atk 252 Def 6 Hp
Moveset:
Fake Out
Bullet Punch
Close Combat
Facade

Gengar@Life Orb
Timid
252 Sp Atk 252 Spd 6 Hp
Moveset:
HP Ice (Power 70)
Thunderbolt
Shadow Ball
Focus Blast

Blissey@Leftovers
Bold
252 Hp 252 Def 6 Sp Def
Moveset:
Aromatherapy
Seismic Toss
Softboiled
T-Wave

Salamence@Choice Specs
Modest
Moveset:
Draco Meteor
Dragon Pulse
Hydro Pump
Flamethrower

Porygon-Z@Choice Scarf
Modest
Moveset:
Tri-Attack
ice Beam
Thunderbolt
Psychic <--Breeding for HP Fighting

So hows my team? I think there is too many Sp Sweepers but I dont know what to add. I also have a Donphan but I kinda like Gliscor more. Also I am planning on putting in Starmie so that I have a Rapid Spinner...All suggestions will be taken to consideration
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Old 08-30-2007, 02:01 PM
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Gliscor@Leftovers
Impish
252 HP 252 Def 6 Atk
Moveset:
Roost
Aerial Ace/Fire Fang/Knock Off
Earthquake
Stealth Rock

Fire Fang Provides more Type coverage and hits Skarmory/ Bronzong and its biggest weakness, Ice Types etc, On the other hand Knock off can ruin Choice users, Leftovers etc. so this is up to you.

Hariyama@Flame Orb
Adamant
252 Atk 252 Def 6 Hp
Moveset:
Fake Out
Bullet Punch
Close Combat
Facade

Looks fine to me



Gengar@Wide Lense/Petaya Berry
Timid
252 Sp Atk 252 Spd 6 Hp
Moveset:
HP Ice (Power 70)
Thunderbolt
Shadow Ball
Focus Blast/Hypnosis/Subsitute/Sludge Bomb

Good moveset and Hidden Power Ice is so hard to get, but Life Orb on Gengar isnt that good Imo, because its rather frail and doesn't need that extra damage that life orb inflicts.Wide Lense makes it less likely that Focus Blast or Hypnosis miss, and Substitute helps activate Petaya Berry to make it even an even better Special Sweeper, Sludge Bomb is just there for STAB.


Blissey@Leftovers
Bold
252 Hp 252 Def 6 Sp Def
Moveset:
Aromatherapy/Ice Beam
Seismic Toss
Softboiled
T-Wave

May i suggest Ice Beam in here somewhere, because i know its not common but Gengar with substitute walls you otherwise

Salamence@Choice Specs
Modest
252 Speed 252 Sp.Att 6 Hp
Moveset:
Draco Meteor
Dragon Pulse
Hydro Pump
Flamethrower

Standard.




Porygon-Z@Choice Scarf
Modest
252 Speed 252 SP.Att 6 HP
Moveset:
Tri-Attack
ice Beam
Thunderbolt
Dark Pulse/Psychic

Why HP Fighting ? Dark Pulse or Psychic always with choice Scarf ! , Hidden Power Fighting should only be considered on the Nasty Plot Moveset to Kill Bilssey

So hows my team? I think there is too many Sp Sweepers but I dont know what to add. I also have a Donphan but I kinda like Gliscor more. Also I am planning on putting in Starmie so that I have a Rapid Spinner...All suggestions will be taken to consideration
Changes are in Bold

Take out either Gangar, Salamence, or Porygon-z, you have too many Special Sweepers

You need a physical sweeper

Gyrados, Garchomp, Dragonite, Metagross, Electivire, Tyranitar etc. are all options
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Old 08-30-2007, 02:38 PM
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HP Fighting because Ice/Lightning/Fighting covers everything. Also yeahIt does look like I DONt have much Physical sweepers. That's why I am going to put some in. I might be putting in Dragonite/Gyarados.
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Old 08-30-2007, 02:55 PM
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HP Fighting because Ice/Lightning/Fighting covers everything. Also yeahIt does look like I DONt have much Physical sweepers. That's why I am going to put some in. I might be putting in Dragonite/Gyarados.
It doesn't cover Shedinja. =P Dark Pulse does though.

Meh Dragonite, if you put him in then I suggest over Salamence so you don't overlap that already large Ice weakness.

Gyarados @ Leftovers / Life Orb
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -Sp. Atk)
Trait: Intimidate
~ Dragon Dance
~ Earthquake
~ Stone Edge
~ Taunt / Waterfall

Standard I believe. EV's are something like 78 HP // 252 Atk // 180 Spd if memory serves.
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Old 08-30-2007, 02:57 PM
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HP Fighting because Ice/Lightning/Fighting covers everything. Also yeahIt does look like I DONt have much Physical sweepers. That's why I am going to put some in. I might be putting in Dragonite/Gyarados.
Well ok, but the only things that resist Ice Beam and Thunderbolt are Magnezone and Lanturn w/Volt Absorb, so yeah Hp fighting could be an option a suppose if you want to get rid of those two.


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It doesn't cover Shedinja. =P Dark Pulse does though.

Meh Dragonite, if you put him in then I suggest over Salamence so you don't overlap that already large Ice weakness.

Gyarados @ Leftovers / Life Orb
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -Sp. Atk)
Trait: Intimidate
~ Dragon Dance
~ Earthquake
~ Waterfall/Stone Edge
~ Taunt

Standard I believe. EV's are something like 78 HP // 252 Atk // 180 Spd if memory serves.

Taunt is a must on Gyarados IMO to stop Skarmory from Whirlwinding you away. Waterfall or Stone Edge is up to you because it depends if youd rather be walled by Claydol and Bronzong by using Stone Edge and Earthquake or walled by Salamence and Dragonite by using Waterfall and Earthquake.

and the EVs for a Bulky Gyarados are 214 Hp 16 Attack 180 Defense 100 Speed.
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Old 08-30-2007, 02:58 PM
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Default Re: RMT competitive

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Standard I believe. EV's are something like 78 HP // 252 Atk // 180 Spd if memory serves.
No, it is 16 atk/100 spd/118 Def/212 HP.
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Old 08-30-2007, 03:03 PM
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Meh who uses shedinja anyways...Plus I have stealth rock in play....Yeah I was thinking of putting a Bulky Gyarados in. I already have one made so yeah I might try that out. Also might take out P-Z for Starmie since I dont have any water moves in there. Lastly I am thinking of eithre putting Machamp, or Medicham in there as well. Meh I got a long way to go I have TONS of pokemon to test out and mix and match
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Old 08-30-2007, 09:56 PM
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No, it is 16 atk/100 spd/118 Def/212 HP.
212 HP/180 Def/16 Atk/100 Spd

Anyways

Starmie over Porygon-Z.

Gyara over Gengar probably.
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Old 08-31-2007, 06:33 PM
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I'm against the idea of using such bulky EVs on Gyara, considering the team has a safe fighting counter in Gliscor, and how hard it is for Garchomp to switch in. An offensive Gyara would do better, imo
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Old 09-02-2007, 12:10 AM
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I'm against the idea of using such bulky EVs on Gyara, considering the team has a safe fighting counter in Gliscor, and how hard it is for Garchomp to switch in. An offensive Gyara would do better, imo
Im a bigger fan of Bulky Gyara leads then Gliscor tbh. That, and Bulky still survives easier then offensive and can usually get off DDances easier.
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