EV questions

[LouieVonAlfredo]

I've read a lot of guides about EV and tried to make a pokemon with the perfect stats.
(I used cheats for the purpose of seeing for my eyes how this works)

Case1. I first got a level 1 infernape, and gave it 10 proteins. His attack stat did not change at all, nor did it change when it levelled up. What's going on here?

Case2. I then got another level 1 infernape, and made it battle only salamences until I maxed out the attack EVs (I know it maxed out because infernape wouldn't take any proteins, but it would take carbos or anything else). I then gave it rare candies until it was the same level (lvl 47) as the infernape I evloved from the starter pokemon. However, my infernape that I've been casually using in the game had better attack stats. The starter infernape has been just battling random trainers and pokemon, and did not receive any specific EV training.

Why is it that the EV trained infernape < non-EV trained infernape?

please graciously share your wisdom.

[Teo]

Calcium, Carbos, HP Up, Iron, Protein and Zinc only do half the job of EVing a Pokemon. It only gives you a total of 100 in that specific stat. if I remember correctly. You can only give them a total of 10?

So you'll still have to battle Pokemon one way or another. As for your case. How many levels did you try raising it? You should have seen some sort of boost regardless if it's hacked or not.

As for the second case. Perhaps the first Infernape just had better IV's and a beneficial Nature? That could be why it had a higher attack stat.

[LouieVonAlfredo]

Yes, but the 10 proteins did not increase the attack stat by even one...

Both of the infernapes had the same natures, jolly, so that should not have affected anything...

Maybe, if I have more than 4EV per level, it will just be lost?
i.e if I get 12attack EV at level 50, only 4 of the EV will boost my attack stat and the other 8 don't do anything, but it will still count to the 255 cap?

[Teo]

What was the initial boost when you first Leveled Infernape? My understanding of EVing is that you don't see the full results of it until they reach level 100. So it spreads it out over the course of those 100 levels.

[shucklerules]

Originally Posted by Teo

What was the initial boost when you first Leveled Infernape? My understanding of EVing is that you don't see the full results of it until they reach level 100. So it spreads it out over the course of those 100 levels.

Yes, or maybe you already have 510 EVs before you fed the proteins to Infernape.

Edit:Oh Nevermind you said it was level 1.

[LouieVonAlfredo]

Originally Posted by Teo

What was the initial boost when you first Leveled Infernape? My understanding of EVing is that you don't see the full results of it until they reach level 100. So it spreads it out over the course of those 100 levels.

I got +2 when it went from level 1-2. As I was EV training it, it was only getting +2s and 3s, never 4s.

Even if the results spread, my starter infernape had better stats than the 255 EVed infernape...

[Tasteless]

Account for IVs.

Also rare candies do not add EV stats.


When you level via rare candy, you did not add any of the EV stats.

Also just because it won't accept Proteins doesn't mean anything besides that the EV total is over 100. It doesn't mean it has capped at 252/255.

[shucklerules]

Originally Posted by Tasteless

Account for IVs.

Also rare candies do not add EV stats.


When you level via rare candy, you did not add any of the EV stats.

Also just because it won't accept Proteins doesn't mean anything besides that the EV total is over 100. It doesn't mean it has capped at 252/255.

Um duh...Infernapes Max attack is 307 so you should never get +4s.

[Dark Turtwig]

Originally Posted by shucklerules

Um duh...Infernapes Max attack is 307 so you should never get +4s.

Yes, he should occasionally. And sometimes he gets +2s.
But when you EV train, you said he fought Salamences, at level one. Did he acually defeat them, or did you switch him out to another pokemon? If you did that, he didn't gain the EV's.

[Teo]

Originally Posted by Dark Turtwig

Yes, he should occasionally. And sometimes he gets +2s.
But when you EV train, you said he fought Salamences, at level one. Did he acually defeat them, or did you switch him out to another pokemon? If you did that, he didn't gain the EV's.

It doesn't matter if you switch to a different Pokemon. The only thing that gets cut in half is the EXP. Effort points are still given to those Pokemon who participated in battle

Example:
Wild Bibarel Appeared
Trainer Sent out Teddiursa
Trainer Switched out Teddiursa for Cherrim
-Insert battle here-
Wild Bibarel Fainted
Cherrim gained EXP Teddiursa gained EXP

Now let's say that Teddiursa had Pokerus and was holding Power Bracer.

Since Bibarel gives 2 EP's in Attack and Power Bracer adds on +4 in attack. You gain a total of 6! Then you multiply that by 2 due to Pokerus, then you're left with a total of 12

So in that battle Cherrim gained 2 EP's in Attack while Teddiursa gained 12.

Teddiursa doesn't actually NEED to battle in order to gain EV's. All he has to do is participate IN the battle to gain EXP and EV's. As I stated earlier, any pokemon that gains EXP gains Effort Points. This is how you raise Pokemon that are newly hatched.

[Katana Master]

Wait dont you see a significant stat change at lv. 100? or does it graduualy get those stats?

[Viva la Gofre]

Originally Posted by LouieVonAlfredo

I've read a lot of guides about EV and tried to make a pokemon with the perfect stats.
(I used cheats for the purpose of seeing for my eyes how this works)

Case1. I first got a level 1 infernape, and gave it 10 proteins. His attack stat did not change at all, nor did it change when it levelled up. What's going on here?

Case2. I then got another level 1 infernape, and made it battle only salamences until I maxed out the attack EVs (I know it maxed out because infernape wouldn't take any proteins, but it would take carbos or anything else). I then gave it rare candies until it was the same level (lvl 47) as the infernape I evloved from the starter pokemon. However, my infernape that I've been casually using in the game had better attack stats. The starter infernape has been just battling random trainers and pokemon, and did not receive any specific EV training.

Why is it that the EV trained infernape < non-EV trained infernape?

please graciously share your wisdom.

The stat boosts will not appear in any significant order, you may gain +28 one level and +2 on the next. They may welll be entirely random up until level 99, where any boosts you are owed will all come into effect

Originally Posted by Teo

Calcium, Carbos, HP Up, Iron, Protein and Zinc only do half the job of EVing a Pokemon. It only gives you a total of 100 in that specific stat. if I remember correctly. You can only give them a total of 10?

Not quite. It isn't that you can only use 10 vitamins per stat, but that they will work until that stat has 100 EVs in it. So if you already have 90 Attack EVs, you will only be able to use 1 protein

Originally Posted by LouieVonAlfredo

Yes, but the 10 proteins did not increase the attack stat by even one...

Both of the infernapes had the same natures, jolly, so that should not have affected anything...

Maybe, if I have more than 4EV per level, it will just be lost?
i.e if I get 12attack EV at level 50, only 4 of the EV will boost my attack stat and the other 8 don't do anything, but it will still count to the 255 cap?

As I said above, you will not be able to find any definate pattern in stat rise, because there isn't one. You may find that a -Spd nature poke will for some reason gain speed at a higher rate initally, because the distribution process is utterly random.

Originally Posted by Teo

What was the initial boost when you first Leveled Infernape? My understanding of EVing is that you don't see the full results of it until they reach level 100. So it spreads it out over the course of those 100 levels.

This is right, you will never see the complete results of your EV training until level 100.

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So yeah, just be patient. If you've worked everything out correctly and are folowing the proceedure properly, you're not doing anything wrong and just need to be patient. The stat boosts are all there, you just can't see them yet =]

Besides, if you can hack why not ram all the stat boosts on that way?