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Old 08-02-2007, 08:02 AM
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I posted this lineup not too long ago, but I made some slight changes.

1. Weavile @ Choice Band
Adamant Nature (+Atk,-SpAtk)
Pressure
EVs: 252 Atk, 252 Spd, 4 Def
-Night Slash
-Ice Punch
-Brick Break
-Aerial Ace

2. Gengar @ Choice Specs
Timid Nature (+Spd,-Atk)
Levitate
EVs: 252 SpAtk, 252 Spd, 4 HP
-Shadow Ball
-Sludge Bomb
-Psychic
-T-Bolt

3. Dragonite @ Expert Belt
Adamant Nature (+Atk,-SpAtk)
Inner Focus
EVs: 252 Atk, 180 Spd, 76 Def
-Dragon Dance
-Dragon Claw
-Thunder Punch
-EQ

4. Infernape @ Life Orb
Timid Nature (+Spd,-Atk)
Blaze
EVs: 252 SpAtk, 252 Spd, 4 SpDef
-Nasty Plot
-Flamethrower
-Focus Blast
-Grass Knot

5. Skarmory @ Shed Shell
Impish Nature (+Def,-SpAtk)
Keen Eye
EVs: 252 HP, 200 Def, 56 Atk
-Spikes
-Whirlwind
-Brave Bird <-- I am stuck with this move since I'd have to re-breed and re-raise a Skarmory to get Drill Peck, but I guess it could always make up for the recoil by Roosting.
-Roost

6. Blissey @ Leftovers
Bold Nature (+Def,-Atk)
Natural Cure
EVs: 252 Def, 252 Sp. Atk, 6 HP
-Calm Mind
-Aromatherapy
-Ice Beam
-Softboiled
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Old 08-02-2007, 12:27 PM
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Looks great, it is balanced and everything. About Blissey, I think it would benefit more though if it had more HP, but it looks good also. Very unexpected and very hard to take down
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Old 08-02-2007, 01:48 PM
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I posted this lineup not too long ago, but I made some slight changes.

1.Weavile @ Choice Band/Focus Sash
Adamant Nature (+Atk,-SpAtk)
Pressure
EVs: 252 Atk, 252 Spd, 6 Hp
-Night Slash/Pursuit
-Ice Punch
-Brick Break
-Aerial Ace/Swords Dance



2.Gengar @ Choice Specs
Timid Nature (+Spd,-Atk)
Levitate
EVs: 252 SpAtk, 252 Spd, 6 HP
-Shadow Ball
-Sludge Bomb
-Psychic
-T-Bolt

3.Dragonite @Expert Belt /Life Orb
Adamant Nature (+Atk,-SpAtk)
Inner Focus
EVs: 252 Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP
-Dragon Dance
-Dragon Claw
-Thunder Punch/Fire Punch/Fire Blast (For Skarmory who will wall this otherwise)
-EQ

4. Infernape @ Life Orb/Expert Belt
Hasty Nature
Blaze
EVs: 252 Speed 129 Special Attack 129 attackk
- Close Combat
- Flamethrower
- Earthquake/Stone Edge
- Grass Knot



5. Skarmory @ Shed Shell
Impish Nature (+Def,-SpAtk)
Keen Eye
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Def, 6 Atk
-Spikes
-Whirlwind
-Drill Peck
-Roost

Skarmory NEEDS Drill Peck

6.Blissey @ Leftovers
Modest Nature
Natural Cure
EVs: 252 Def, 252 HP 6 Special Attack
-Calm Mind
-Thunderbolt
-Ice Beam
-Softboiled

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Blissey @ Leftovers
Bold Nature
Natural Cure
EVS:252 HP 252 Defense 6 Special Defense OR Special Attack
- Seismic Toss
- Softboiled
- Thunder wave
- Ice Beam/Aromatherapy


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Old 08-02-2007, 08:21 PM
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That many EVs in SpAtk is unneeded on Bliss. I'd drop them for more hp and spdef.

Rebreed for Drill Peck on Skarm when you get the chance. Brave Bird goes against being a wall, as walls never want to hurt themselves lol.

Maybe go for a MixSweeper Ape, like Azelf said. Probably something like 252Spd/156 SpAtk/96 Atk for EV spread.

Personally on Gengar, I like going

Gengar (Hasty) @ Leftovers/Blade Sludge
252 SpAtk/252 Spd
-Thunderbolt
-Shadowball
-Explosion/Destiny Bond
-Hypnosis

I think pretty much every team should have a sleeper. Its too good of a stat to pass up. Most people play with Sleep Clause, but still. One less pokemon to deal with for awhile is great.
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Old 08-02-2007, 09:47 PM
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No way of countering Garchomp, but to revenge-kill it with Weavile. Electivire also gives you huge problems
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Old 08-03-2007, 01:30 AM
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No way of countering Garchomp? I have Blissey with Ice Beam and Weavile for a reason, lol
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Old 08-03-2007, 02:10 AM
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No way of countering Garchomp? I have Blissey with Ice Beam and Weavile for a reason, lol
Either of those have a hard time switching INTO Garchomp. Weavile will take massive damage and might die before it can kill Garchomp. Bliss cant switch in too easily either.
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Old 08-03-2007, 02:15 AM
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A BPed[in Atk and Spd] Garchomp, Electrive, and lots of others destroy this team. There is not muhc you can do if the oppenent has a Ninjask or Jolteon, your dead meat then. Blissey dies in a hit from a Phy attack. Skarm OHKO'd by Fire. Same with Weavile, although he dies from anything.
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Old 08-03-2007, 04:50 AM
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A BPed[in Atk and Spd] Garchomp, Electrive, and lots of others destroy this team. There is not muhc you can do if the oppenent has a Ninjask or Jolteon, your dead meat then. Blissey dies in a hit from a Phy attack. Skarm OHKO'd by Fire. Same with Weavile, although he dies from anything.
I really doubt Blissey will die in one hit from a physical attack, although I'd still give it more hp anyways.

Ninjask is subpar, and isn't a huge threat, as it gives them one less thing to work with. Unless its of sub/berry varity, its not going to pass off anything major other then speed, which can be dealt with by walls.

Skarm counters BP anyways, so I dont know how your saying this team gets destroyed by BP chain. Whirlwind gets rid of the boosts.
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Old 08-03-2007, 04:57 AM
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I really doubt Blissey will die in one hit from a physical attack, although I'd still give it more hp anyways.

Ninjask is subpar, and isn't a huge threat, as it gives them one less thing to work with. Unless its of sub/berry varity, its not going to pass off anything major other then speed, which can be dealt with by walls.

Skarm counters BP anyways, so I dont know how your saying this team gets destroyed by BP chain. Whirlwind gets rid of the boosts.
With the tiny amount of HP he gave it, it will. Like an OU Sally w/ DD or Garchomp with Sword Dance, they could take and I-Beam and then get a STAB move in there and bam Bliss it dead.

But what if Skarm is not faster than the BPed Mon. Which I doubt it would be.

Ninjask is very OU, and so is Jolteon, Jolt passes Sub, which can't be switch away right?

I am just trying to point out somethings that could be a threat not start a debate on this Rmt thread...
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Old 08-03-2007, 05:54 AM
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With the tiny amount of HP he gave it, it will. Like an OU Sally w/ DD or Garchomp with Sword Dance, they could take and I-Beam and then get a STAB move in there and bam Bliss it dead.

But what if Skarm is not faster than the BPed Mon. Which I doubt it would be.

Ninjask is very OU, and so is Jolteon, Jolt passes Sub, which can't be switch away right?

I am just trying to point out somethings that could be a threat not start a debate on this Rmt thread...
Most Salamences are Specs now. Most physical are usaully TTars, Electivires, GDos, Weavile, Rhyperior, ect.

Wouldn't matter if Skarm is faster. Whirlwind/Roar has a -1 priority modifer; always goes last, but Skarm is meant to soak up physical hits anyways.

Ninjask is BL/UU. Jolt is OU.

I know, just saying, those arnt really threats.
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Most Salamences are Specs now. Most physical are usaully TTars, Electivires, GDos, Weavile, Rhyperior, ect.

Wouldn't matter if Skarm is faster. Whirlwind/Roar has a -1 priority modifer; always goes last, but Skarm is meant to soak up physical hits anyways.

Ninjask is BL/UU. Jolt is OU.

I know, just saying, those arnt really threats.
They could be though, I like setting up precautions though.
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I advice you 100%, you don't have to use Aerial Ace for Weavile.
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I advice you 100%, you don't have to use Aerial Ace for Weavile.
Heracross gets a free switch into AA-less Weaville.
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