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Old 01-07-2007, 11:44 PM
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Swampert is never going to pull out a rest unless you have a cleric; everyone carries an HP grasser/Giga drain user on their teams nowadays
It's not like anyone would leave Swampert in to take such a hit though. Surf works and if you are feeling lucky, Hydro Pump is useful.
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Old 01-08-2007, 12:30 AM
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Gengar (M) @ Leftovers ** Konpaku
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 216 Atk / 236 Spd / 56 SAtk
Mild Nature (+SAtk, -Def)
- Focus Punch
- Ice Punch
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

Salamence (M) @ Choice Band ** Ryuujin
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4 SAtk
Naughty Nature (+Atk, -SDef)
- Earthquake
- Fire Blast
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Rock Slide

Tyranitar (M) @ Leftovers ** Resshin
Trait: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP / 60 Atk / 176 Spd / 20 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Substitute

Forretress (F) @ Leftovers ** Toride
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 60 Atk / 196 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Bug]
- Rapid Spin
- Spikes

Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers ** Guuguu
Trait: Immunity
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 SDef
Sassy Nature (+SDef, -Spd)
- Body Slam
- Fire Blast
- Rest
- Shadow Ball

Swampert (M) @ Leftovers ** Kawamaru
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 240 HP / 68 Atk / 120 Def / 80 SAtk
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Ice Beam
- Roar
- Surf

ok, here's the thing. I like this team quite a bit, I think I actually win a lot of the times. but I still have problems going against, for example, Milotic. I usually have a hard time beating the likes of Milotic, Swampert, or Vaporeon, and/or baton pass teams. so, what I would like, is for an EXPERIENCED USER (like Lucavi or something) to give me some moveset suggestions, or EVs, or even new pokes. I should say, however, that most of these sets work, but I'll take suggestions anyway, cause there's obviously room for improvement :)
Change Tyranitars substitute to spikes or dragon claw. That's much more efficiant.
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Old 01-08-2007, 02:46 AM
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Change Tyranitars substitute to spikes or dragon claw. That's much more efficiant.
ummm have you ever played nb before? or even battled competitively at all?
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Old 01-08-2007, 05:27 AM
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Or realised that ttar cannot learn spikes. And dragon claw won't do anything at all comparing it to its stats and move type.
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Old 01-12-2007, 04:08 PM
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exactly... and now I find myself in another dillema.... I have a friggin grass weakness. starmie and swampert cant really touch sceptile, and tyranitar can sometimes, but its difficult. xD and it became a bit harder to face sceptile when starmie came in. so, if I have forry, I wont have much probs agains sceptile, since I rapid spinned the seeds and hp bugged them. but now I dont have much trouble with waters, butI do with grass. lol, this is gonna be hard. sry to still bug u ppl with my team.
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Old 01-12-2007, 04:49 PM
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exactly... and now I find myself in another dillema.... I have a friggin grass weakness. starmie and swampert cant really touch sceptile, and tyranitar can sometimes, but its difficult. xD and it became a bit harder to face sceptile when starmie came in. so, if I have forry, I wont have much probs agains sceptile, since I rapid spinned the seeds and hp bugged them. but now I dont have much trouble with waters, butI do with grass. lol, this is gonna be hard. sry to still bug u ppl with my team.
Tbh, Sceptile is ruined by Sandstream since it can't stall with leech seed or use Endeavor. Just keep switching with Gengar till leech seed misses or until Sandstream kills Sceptile. Gengar resists Leaf blade, and has low HP which means that HP ice doesn't hurt it that bad. Also, i'd be far more worried about countering Bulky waters, which are a staple in any team, rather than worrying about the rare Sceptile
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Old 01-15-2007, 04:00 PM
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Tbh, Sceptile is ruined by Sandstream since it can't stall with leech seed or use Endeavor. Just keep switching with Gengar till leech seed misses or until Sandstream kills Sceptile. Gengar resists Leaf blade, and has low HP which means that HP ice doesn't hurt it that bad. Also, i'd be far more worried about countering Bulky waters, which are a staple in any team, rather than worrying about the rare Sceptile
actually celebi is probably just as problematic unless he is able to predict the switch in with tyranitar and beat it down.... but even then.
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Old 01-15-2007, 06:06 PM
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actually celebi is probably just as problematic unless he is able to predict the switch in with tyranitar and beat it down.... but even then.
He has Salamence for Celebi too, so it's really not problematic
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