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Old 02-24-2006, 12:51 PM
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Default Re: Alakazam Analysis

Zam OHKOs Ttar with HP grass after 3 CMs, assuming TTar is max HP, 0 spD evs. Even after 2, the best you can do is 98% ish...

just fyi, I think.
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Zam OHKOs Ttar with HP grass after 3 CMs, assuming TTar is max HP, 0 spD evs. Even after 2, the best you can do is 98% ish...

just fyi, I think.
*jaw drops* Umm....what did you say? mouNt rushMorE-?

I use a (w[simple]r) Calm Mind - Psychic - Recover - Future Sight (yes, lol, I know!).
It works fine...... But T-tar>Alakazam!
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Old 02-24-2006, 11:17 PM
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Alakazam has potential, but unless you bp it from vap with 101 sub and a few acid armors up, I find it extremely hard to find a 3 turn gap to calm mind up in.
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Alakazam has potential, but unless you bp it from vap with 101 sub and a few acid armors up, I find it extremely hard to find a 3 turn gap to calm mind up in.
Yeah but you are obsessed with passing from Vaporeon.
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Old 02-25-2006, 02:07 AM
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Quite right.
But after a calm mind if you give it decent Evs in Sp.Atk. HP grass WILL Ohko Ttar.
go check on the damage calc before you type.

and if you have a dugtrio on your team with Alakazam, as you mentioned, your team will sweep very easily,yes but technically as dugtrio cannot switch into houndoom safely, not a counter.
I said it takes out Houndoom as in it kills Houndoom. I know it's not a counter.

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Zam OHKOs Ttar with HP grass after 3 CMs, assuming TTar is max HP, 0 spD evs. Even after 2, the best you can do is 98% ish...
I ran it through a calculator.

With no Calm Minds, max-special attack, Timid Alakazam's HP Grass deals 155-182 damage to 0 special defense Tyranitar. This means you will need at least 3 Calm Minds on near-max damage to get the damage required to OHKO a Tyranitar assuming he runs max HP (like most Boahs do) and no special defense.
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I went Modest for damage whoring :d
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Wouldn't CM Zams normally go for Timid though?
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I went Modest for damage whoring :d
Well, in any event, I think it's been established that TTar isn't KOed instantly by most brands of HP Grass Alakazam.
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Yeah but you are obsessed with passing from Vaporeon.

Vaporeon, Jolteon, and Espeon are my favorite passers :x.

Baton passing Calm Mind + Sub, Baton Passing Sub, and Baton Passing 101 subs with acid armor how can you not love that trio.
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...Hazing? Psuedo-Hazing?
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I rarely run into hazers anymore :/
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...Hazing? Psuedo-Hazing?
Nobody is going to switch their Skarmory or Weezing into a pokemon with STAB Surf / Thunderbolt off base 110 special attack. Suicune's a jerk like that but he can't touch Vaporeon and Jolteon kind of crushes him if he tries to switch in.
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...Hazing? Psuedo-Hazing?
Nobody is going to switch their Skarmory or Weezing into a pokemon with STAB Surf / Thunderbolt off base 110 special attack. Suicune's a jerk like that but he can't touch Vaporeon and Jolteon kind of crushes him if he tries to switch in.
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