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Old 01-12-2011, 07:04 PM
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Default Are we just getting Older or is Pokemon getting worse?

Now, It is possible that this has been a topic already discussed, but I
havnt visited for awhile and wouldnt mind peoples points of view,

The argument:
The reason why lots of people dislike the look of pokemon B&W is because
they have grown up with Pokemon and are now too old to appreciate how
great the new pokemon are.

I think personally that of course, we are getting older, but this doesnt mean
that the pokemon games arnt getting worse, because lets face it, they are.
However Pokemon games will always be around, and they will always have
fans, but they will probably lose a lot of fans that are into the old pokemon
games, which is why I think they keep re-making the old classics to draw
the old fans back into pokemon.
Of course the pokemon games are getting graphically better, and more
intresting and fun but the pokemon arn't as good as the old ones, I think
that they are running out of ideas, which is to be expected, but looking
through the list of pokemon and seeying an Icecream cone really put
realisation into my mind of how they are losing idea's and pokemon are
becoming more abstract and ugly.

Just my opinion, I havnt played Pokemon B&W yet so I shouldnt be
critisising it but I will surely play it and see what I think of it. Of which im
sure it will be a fine good game.

Whats your opinion on this subject, are pokemon getting worse or are
we just getting to old?
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Old 01-12-2011, 07:37 PM
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They're running out of ideas.
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Old 01-12-2011, 08:26 PM
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Default Re: Are we just getting Older or is Pokemon getting worse?

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They're running out of ideas.
Wait, is that thing even alive?
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Old 01-12-2011, 08:36 PM
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They're running out of ideas.
TAKE THAT BACK.

Yabukuron <3.

I think it's the fact people are getting older. Some people didn't really understand the design point of many of the Pokemon this generation...

And when you compare Grimer to Yabukuron? Which seems more original? A pile of sludge or trash that uses bin lining as a sort of shield?

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Default Re: Are we just getting Older or is Pokemon getting worse?

No, it is not that we are getting older. For God's sakes, I still enjoy all the way to the beginning of Hoenn. However, the more recent Pocket Monsters suggest that they are running out of ideas.

If it was that I was outgrowing Pokemon, I do not think I would ignore my gut feelings and buy the most recent Pokemon game, Black and White, either. Count me in for previous Gens, however the new one does seem a little wacko. Each Pokemon is stupid-looking and poorly based, or is an obvious ripoff of another, earlier, Pokemon.

Face it, they are getting a little worse.
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Old 01-12-2011, 08:47 PM
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No, it is not that we are getting older. For God's sakes, I still enjoy all the way to the beginning of Hoenn. However, the more recent Pocket Monsters suggest that they are running out of ideas.

If it was that I was outgrowing Pokemon, I do not think I would ignore my gut feelings and buy the most recent Pokemon game, Black and White, either. Count me in for previous Gens, however the new one does seem a little wacko. Each Pokemon is stupid-looking and poorly based, or is an obvious ripoff of another, earlier, Pokemon.

Face it, they are getting a little worse.
What my friend (the person who raised this argument) was trying to say was I think that the younger generation might prefere the newer pokemon because they havn't experianced the older ones. Perhaps the newer pokemon are more tailored to the younger audience.



Ok. Mabye they are just running out of ideas.
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In all honesty, Pokemon isn't running out of ideas. We only say that because the designs aren't up to our expectations. Every single location, every region, every Pokemon, it's all based off of something. There is an entire WORLD that they haven't touched yet and probably are going to look into later on.

Their games haven't really suffered. The only bad ones I remember playing were Pokemon Dash, Pokemon Channel (in comparison to Hey You Pikachu, which I think Channel was to be a sequel of...)... and I think that may be it. Pokemon Battle Revolution is a weaker one, but I don't consider it terrible because of the new 3D models, the nice lighting in it, and the fact that Pokemon run up to each other now. However in comparison, it's a lacking game for a larger consul one.

Pokemon is still as great as ever. I love the fifth generation and I think a lot of the ideas are nice. They even made up for their lack of Bug Pokemon pretty nicely, giving us neat new creatures like Pendra, the centipede guy.

Pokemon isn't running out of ideas. Our expectations have just become too high.

That's my opinion anyways.

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Old 01-12-2011, 09:14 PM
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Pokemon isn't running out of ideas. Our expectations have just become too high.
This could be it, we are constantly expecting bigger and better pokemon
and always seem to be dissapointed with the newer ones but once we get
round to playing the games and catching those pokemon we begin to enjoy
them for what they are.
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Default Re: Are we just getting Older or is Pokemon getting worse?

Also, if they were running out of ideas then Generation 5 wouldn't a purely new region (no connections to the past ones other than character cameos and fossils). xD

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I've had this topic brought up once or twice, true the older games had something there but I have to say this as no one else is or will.
the ONLY reason that I can see GameFreak/TPCI doing the remakes that they have was 2 sided
1)to allow the past Gen a moment to catch up to the current DEX /lineup
2) to allow the graffix a nice boost/ facelift

other than those two reasons I myself would not spend any of my hard earned cash into any remakes
I look 4werd to the future and I say this lightly GEN V is way better than any of the older games by far -THO they could have made it a bit easier to navigate your items bag-
EX:I personally dig the superior manueverability of the HG/SS item bag 100%
in Black & White you can Xpect to navigate your bag the same manner as in D/P/Pt. scrolling down a list of infinite *hit.

Yes some of us are getting older. but thats life.. you Do or Dont then we die
No the games arent getting worse I actually love the animated sprites the new region there's still a night & day factor to the games & seasons isnt bad at all
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Old 01-12-2011, 10:20 PM
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I don't know about you guys, but to me B/W looks like it will be the best entry in the series since G/S/C. I think people become blinded by nostalgia and fail to realize there were some fairly bland original Pokemon. Voltorb was just a living Pokeball, and Jynx is still, in my opinion, one of the weirdest Pokemon out there.
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We are getting older, and Nintendo/Game Freak aren't tailoring the games to an older audience. When you play Pokemon, there is no option to play as an older character in their teens or as an adult. You are always playing a young kid, and since that element isn't growing old with you, yes, you do feel like you're outgrowing the series. From what it seems, younger gamers don't mind playing older game characters. Older gamers seem a little wary about playing as a kid in a video game. It just feels a little awkward and reminds you that the game you're playing isn't intended for the target audience you're a part of.
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Default Re: Are we just getting Older or is Pokemon getting worse?

Someone posted this before, not sure if it was on PE2K though, but it was so true.

Sure the Pokémon in GENV are pretty slack, but some of the earlier Pokémon would've been hated if they were created this late into the series, like Voltorb, Ditto and Grimer, some of the most pathetic designs ever.

I see no problem with any of the new designs... except for that trash thingy posted above, and the freakin' ice-cream.

In conclusion, just as RM said, we're wanting too many cool, awesome looking Pokémon.
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Old 01-12-2011, 11:27 PM
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Someone posted this before, not sure if it was on PE2K though, but it was so true.

Sure the Pokémon in GENV are pretty slack, but some of the earlier Pokémon would've been hated if they were created this late into the series, like Voltorb, Ditto and Grimer, some of the most pathetic designs ever.

I see no problem with any of the new designs... except for that trash thingy posted above, and the freakin' ice-cream.

In conclusion, just as RM said, we're wanting too many cool, awesome looking Pokémon.
I've noticed the same thing with every generation:

There are some good ones, and there are some bad ones.

Still, I think the whole point of the game is regardless of who you are, you're bound to find at least a few Pokemon you can love, whether they are cool-looking, cute, funny, made after your favorite animal, or whatever. And the reverse is perfectly true as well.
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Default Re: Are we just getting Older or is Pokemon getting worse?

Admittedly, the series has changed...But the people who are designing the 'mon are changing too. People leave, people die, new people are brought in...Rinse and repeat.

They are different. But that shouldn't make them "bad". It's based purely on one's dislikes and likes. I love Ulgamoth (the fire/bug) and some of the new designs. Personally, I loved Hoenn - Aggron is my favorite.

I mean, I love games a lot of fans of a series hate (I'm looking at all the Sonic fans out there). I'm wary of Black and White, but I still preordered Black. I'm a little mad that Secret Power, Water Pulse, and Shock Wave aren't TMs anymore...And that there are no Move Tutors for regular pokemon like in the other games. That's a big no no.

But I'm looking forward to the graphics.
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