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Old 03-18-2011, 04:26 PM
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Default Tentacruel (5th Gen Attacking Lead)

Tentacruel @ Expert Belt
Nature: Modest
Ability: Liquid Ooze/Rain Dish
EVs: 36 HP/252 Def/220 SpAtk
Moveset:
-Acid Spray
-Giga Drain
-Surf/Scald
-Hidden Power Fire/Hidden Power Ground/Ice Beam

If the opponent dosen't have a lead Poke that can OHKO Tentacruel, you start out with the upper hand in the battle, no matter what else they might do. Acid Spray to immediately drop SpDef by 2 stages, the KO with move of choice. Giga Drain is your second main atacking option here, to gain back any lost HP. Scald to try and burn, or Surf for more power, both for a second STAB move. HP Fire for steel types, and Ice Beam for Dragon types, deoending on what your team is weaker against. Most people will also try and Taunt this lead, thinking it is running Toxic Spikes, so more often than not, you will get a free shot in.

This thing absolutely loves to lead versus both Ninetails (DroughtTails), and Politoed (DrizzleToad), and doesn't care about the potential burn it might get.

It also can still run well if Tricked a Choice Scarf or Choice Specs.

Scizor can be OHKO'd, and Forrettress ahs more than a 50% chance at being OHKO'd. Skarmoy can be 2HKO'd.

Machamp can usually be beaten via 2HKO, suppossing you don't hurt yourself during confusion.

This laughs at Heatran and Chandelure, even if they switch in for a Flash Fire boost (beats Dream World Chandelure, as well).

Always switch out versus Deoxys-S. Most Deo-S leads do seem to carry one attack...Psycho Boost...Which will OHKO everytime.

If running Ice Beam, you can beat Dragonite, but you better switch out versus any other Dragon.

Additional Comments:

A different EV spread of 216 HP/40 Def/252 SpAtk can be utilized for the following...

Cloyster: A somewhat popular lead now in Gen. 5. In the case that one is met as an oppossing lead, you can now survive the Focus Sashed variants that Shell Smash on turn one, and Rock Blast on turn two, even if all five Rock Blasts hit (and none of them crit.), and allow you to 2HKO in return, while gaining back HP with Giga Drain.

I asked my opponent to specifically bring an Adamant Cloyster, holding Focus Sash, EV spread of 252 Atk/252 Speed/4 HP, and having Skill Link as it's ability. Suppossing a crit doesn't happen, Tenacruel wins, even with the boosted Shell Smash. Here's the proof...


Code:
Battle between Skip.t.G and Vovinia started!

 

Tier: BW OU

Rule: Unrated

Rule: Wifi Battle

 

Vovinia sent out Cloyster!

Skip.t.G sent out Tentacruel!

Vovinia: sashed

Skip.t.G: same as before, please

Vovinia: yep yep

Skip.t.G: SS, the RB

 

Start of turn 1

The foe's Cloyster used Shell Smash!

The foe's Cloyster's Defense fell!

The foe's Cloyster's Sp. Def. fell!

The foe's Cloyster's Attack sharply rose!

The foe's Cloyster's Sp. Att. sharply rose!

The foe's Cloyster's Speed sharply rose!

 

Tentacruel used Acid Spray!

The foe's Cloyster lost 62% of its health!

The foe's Cloyster's Sp. Def. sharply fell!

 

 

Start of turn 2

The foe's Cloyster used Rock Blast!

Tentacruel lost 69 HP! (19% of its health)

Tentacruel lost 68 HP! (19% of its health)

Tentacruel lost 76 HP! (21% of its health)

Tentacruel lost 66 HP! (18% of its health)

Tentacruel lost 72 HP! (20% of its health)

Hit 5 times!

 

Tentacruel used Giga Drain!

It's super effective!

The foe's Cloyster lost 37% of its health!

The foe's Cloyster fainted!

The foe's Cloyster had its energy drained!

 

Skip.t.G won the battle!

Vovinia: HMM

Vovinia: Good enough for you?

Skip.t.G: Thats what i needed to know. Thanks for the help.

Skip.t.G: thanks again

Vovinia: no problem
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Old 03-19-2011, 08:18 PM
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Double Post...Shoot me now...

Anyways, to make the potential non-believers believe...Battle log...My Tentacruel vaariant beat Standdard WishBliss, one-on-one...No hax envolved...

*EDIT* this starts on turn #9*

Code:
Battle between Emaderton and Skip.t.G started!

Tier: Wifi
Rule: Unrated
Rule: Sleep Clause
Rule: Species Clause
Rule: Wifi Battle

Skip.t.G sent out Tentacruel!
Emaderton sent out Spoon-Master! (Alakazam)
Skip.t.G: Battling for PE2K...GL and HF.
Emaderton: kk im battleling for TU

Start of turn 1
Skip.t.G called Tentacruel back!
Skip.t.G sent out Starmie!

The foe's Spoon-Master used Energy Ball!
It's super effective!
Starmie lost 269 HP! (100% of its health)
Starmie fainted!
The foe's Spoon-Master is hurt by its Life Orb!

Emaderton: ill put u down as PE2K
Skip.t.G: >_< Oujch
Skip.t.G sent out Zoroark!

Start of turn 2
The foe's Spoon-Master used Shadow Ball!
It's not very effective...
Zoroark lost 98 HP! (37% of its health)
The foe's Spoon-Master is hurt by its Life Orb!

Zoroark used Night Daze!
It's super effective!
The foe's Spoon-Master lost 80% of its health!
The foe's Spoon-Master fainted!
Zoroark is hurt by its Life Orb!

Emaderton: ouch
Emaderton: lol
Emaderton sent out Doctor-B! (Blissey)

Skip.t.G: LP
Skip.t.G: * :P

Start of turn 3
Skip.t.G called Zoroark back!
Skip.t.G sent out Cloyster!

The foe's Doctor-B used Seismic Toss!
Cloyster lost 100 HP! (41% of its health)

Start of turn 4
Emaderton called Doctor-B back!
Emaderton sent out Shady! (Chandelure)

Cloyster used Shell Smash!
Cloyster's Defense fell!
Cloyster's Sp. Def. fell!
Cloyster's Attack sharply rose!
Cloyster's Sp. Att. sharply rose!
Cloyster's Speed sharply rose!

Start of turn 5
Cloyster used Rock Blast!
It's super effective!
The foe's Shady lost 31% of its health!
The foe's Shady lost 31% of its health!
The foe's Shady lost 32% of its health!
The foe's Shady lost 5% of its health!
The foe's Shady fainted!
Hit 4 times!

Emaderton: ug i hate that ability
Emaderton sent out Bolt! (Thundurus)

Start of turn 6
Cloyster used Icicle Spear!
It's super effective!
The foe's Bolt lost 60% of its health!
The foe's Bolt lost 40% of its health!
The foe's Bolt fainted!
Hit 2 times!

Emaderton sent out Spice! (Cloyster)

Skip.t.G: Yeah. Its pretty abusive

Start of turn 7
Cloyster used Rock Blast!
It's super effective!
The foe's Spice lost 19% of its health!
The foe's Spice lost 20% of its health!
The foe's Spice lost 18% of its health!
The foe's Spice lost 18% of its health!
The foe's Spice lost 19% of its health!
Hit 5 times!

The foe's Spice used Explosion!
The foe's Spice fainted!
Cloyster lost 141 HP! (58% of its health)
Cloyster fainted!

Emaderton: had to get him outta there
Skip.t.G sent out Tentacruel!

Emaderton sent out Hammerhead! (Terrakion)

Skip.t.G: Undestandable. He was doing too much

Start of turn 8
Zoroark used Hidden Power!
It's super effective!
The foe's Hammerhead lost 74% of its health!
Zoroark is hurt by its Life Orb!

The foe's Hammerhead used Sacred Sword!
It's super effective!
Zoroark lost 111 HP! (42% of its health)
Zoroark fainted!

Skip.t.G sent out Tentacruel!

Start of turn 9
Emaderton called Hammerhead back!
Emaderton sent out Doctor-B! (Blissey)

Tentacruel used Scald!
The foe's Doctor-B lost 11% of its health!

The foe's Doctor-B restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 10
Tentacruel used Acid Spray!
The foe's Doctor-B lost 5% of its health!
The foe's Doctor-B's Sp. Def. sharply fell!

The foe's Doctor-B used Wish!

The foe's Doctor-B restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 11
Tentacruel used Acid Spray!
The foe's Doctor-B lost 12% of its health!
The foe's Doctor-B's Sp. Def. sharply fell!

The foe's Doctor-B used Seismic Toss!
Tentacruel lost 100 HP! (27% of its health)

Doctor-B's wish came true!
Tentacruel restored a little HP using its Black Sludge!

Start of turn 12
Tentacruel used Acid Spray!
The foe's Doctor-B lost 18% of its health!
The foe's Doctor-B's Sp. Def. sharply fell!

The foe's Doctor-B used Seismic Toss!
Tentacruel lost 100 HP! (27% of its health)

Tentacruel restored a little HP using its Black Sludge!
The foe's Doctor-B restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 13
Tentacruel used Giga Drain!
The foe's Doctor-B lost 33% of its health!
The foe's Doctor-B had its energy drained!

The foe's Doctor-B used Seismic Toss!
Tentacruel lost 100 HP! (27% of its health)

Tentacruel restored a little HP using its Black Sludge!
The foe's Doctor-B restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 14
Tentacruel used Giga Drain!
The foe's Doctor-B lost 32% of its health!
The foe's Doctor-B had its energy drained!

The foe's Doctor-B used Wish!

Tentacruel restored a little HP using its Black Sludge!
The foe's Doctor-B restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 15
The foe's Doctor-B used Protect!
The foe's Doctor-B protected itself!

Tentacruel used Scald!
The foe's Doctor-B protected itself!

Doctor-B's wish came true!
The foe's Doctor-B restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 16
Tentacruel used Scald!
The foe's Doctor-B lost 48% of its health!

The foe's Doctor-B used Seismic Toss!
Tentacruel lost 100 HP! (27% of its health)

Tentacruel restored a little HP using its Black Sludge!
The foe's Doctor-B restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 17
The foe's Doctor-B used Protect!
The foe's Doctor-B protected itself!

Tentacruel used Scald!
The foe's Doctor-B protected itself!

Tentacruel restored a little HP using its Black Sludge!
The foe's Doctor-B restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 18
Tentacruel used Scald!
The foe's Doctor-B lost 52% of its health!
The foe's Doctor-B was burned!

The foe's Doctor-B used Wish!

Tentacruel restored a little HP using its Black Sludge!
The foe's Doctor-B restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Doctor-B is hurt by its burn!
The foe's Doctor-B fainted!
Emaderton: yikes
Emaderton sent out Hammerhead! (Terrakion)

Skip.t.G: I love 5th gen Tenta...It beats Blissey now,\. :P

Start of turn 19
The foe's Hammerhead used Sacred Sword!
It's not very effective...
Tentacruel lost 158 HP! (43% of its health)

Tentacruel used Scald!
It's super effective!
The foe's Hammerhead lost 25% of its health!
The foe's Hammerhead fainted!

Skip.t.G won the battle!
Emaderton: Hmmm, your battle style is intriguing, to say I pulled a wrong move would be lying, until we meet again.
Skip.t.G: gg
Emaderton: u gonna have to show me that one i like that combo
Emaderton: lol gg
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Old 03-24-2011, 01:52 PM
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BUMP for justice. But in all honesty, this set looks quite good. I can't wait to try it out.
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This sounds like an interesting lead. Never thought of using Tentacruel as a lead. Just a question for you, what Pokémon see to give you the most problem while using this?
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I haven't battled competitively for a long while and it doesn't seem as if leads have been set in stone yet. Still how does this thing stand up against Jirachi leads that are still roaming around?
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I haven't battled competitively for a long while and it doesn't seem as if leads have been set in stone yet. Still how does this thing stand up against Jirachi leads that are still roaming around?
Jirachi leads are pretty uncommon this generation, TrickScarf is not a very popular strategy anymore given the prevalence of teams catered heavily towards offence, who are very rarely bothered about obtaining a scarf, and if it used it's pretty predictable. Although I expect HP Fire would be a 3HKO.

But yeah, I like this kind of lead. Stat dropping followed by a more powerful attack can be quite effective this generation. I was going to suggest moving those EVs into HP for more generalised bulk, I obviously got beaten to it haha. Definitely HP Fire in the bottom slot, hitting dragons hard is nice but most will tear you apart with Earthquake before you get a chance to retaliate. The ability to kill steel types who ignore your primary strategy will most likely prove more useful.
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Old 03-24-2011, 07:23 PM
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BUMP for justice. But in all honesty, this set looks quite good. I can't wait to try it out.
Thank you.

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This sounds like an interesting lead. Never thought of using Tentacruel as a lead. Just a question for you, what Pokémon see to give you the most problem while using this?
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I haven't battled competitively for a long while and it doesn't seem as if leads have been set in stone yet. Still how does this thing stand up against Jirachi leads that are still roaming around?
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Jirachi leads are pretty uncommon this generation, TrickScarf is not a very popular strategy anymore given the prevalence of teams catered heavily towards offence, who are very rarely bothered about obtaining a scarf, and if it used it's pretty predictable. Although I expect HP Fire would be a 3HKO.

But yeah, I like this kind of lead. Stat dropping followed by a more powerful attack can be quite effective this generation. I was going to suggest moving those EVs into HP for more generalised bulk, I obviously got beaten to it haha. Definitely HP Fire in the bottom slot, hitting dragons hard is nice but most will tear you apart with Earthquake before you get a chance to retaliate. The ability to kill steel types who ignore your primary strategy will most likely prove more useful.
Gofre is correct in saying Jirachi is a 3HKO. With H-Pump, if it comes in late game, and switches into entry hazrds, there is a chane at a 2HKO on most Jirachi variants. ThunderPunching Scarfed Jirachi will beat this though.

This thing absolutely loves to lead versus both DroughtTails, and DrizzleToad, and doesn't care about the potential burn it might get.

It also can still run well if Tricked a Scarf or Specs.

Scizor can be OHKO'd, and Forrey ahs more than a 50% chance at being OHKO'd. Skarmoy can be 2HKO'd.

Machamp can usually be beaten via 2HKO, suppossing you don't hurt yourself during confusion.

This laughs at Heatran and Chandelure, even if they switch in for a Flash Fire boost (beats Dream World Chandelure, as well).

Always switch out versus Deo-S. Most Deo-S leads do seem to carry one attack...Psycho Boost...Which will OHKO everytime.

If running Ice Beam, you can beat Dragonite, but you better switch out versus any other Dragon.

Also, I have giving concideration to Icy Wind over Ice Beam (but with HP Fire still as the main attack in slot 4), but that might turn this into too much of a gimmick, but i have noticed more times than not, versus serious battlers, after the Acid Spray stat drop, they enjoy bringing in a faster-than-Tentacruel-is Dragon. With team viewer though, that does make the prediction of this slightly easier. If you can tag the Genie trio, Haxorus, Latios, Latias, Salamence, or Garchomp on the switch with Icy Wind, you can outspeed if they aren't running Scarf, for a very surprising 2HKO. If Gyarados or Zapdos switch into Stealth Rock, and you get the Icy Wind Speed stat drop, they can be beatten, as well. That would leave you really weak versus Steel types though.
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Old 03-30-2011, 05:46 AM
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Tested my Icy Wind theory actively for a day and a half...Scratch that idea. >_<
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While this set isn't an attacking lead, I've found this to be somewhat useful for my Balance Sun team;

Tentacruel (M) @ Black Sludge
Trait: Liquid Ooze
EVs: 252 HP / 64 Def / 176 SDef / 16 Spd
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Toxic Spikes
- Rapid Spin
- Ice Beam
- Acid Spray

I needed a Spinner to take out the Rocks, and with my SubSeeding Venusaur Toxic Spikes were necessary. Acid Bomb is great for everything, and Ice Beam takes out the annoying Dragons. Giga Drain was left out because I have too many Grass-type mons that have same coverage.

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*EDIT* All of my previos edits have now been pplaced into the OP.

Updated EV spread. Will be editted into the first post...

EVs: 216 HP/40 Def/252 SpAtk

This new EV spread promises to survive the following Poke, suppossing it doesn't crit...

Cloyster: A somewhat popular lead now in Gen. 5. In the case that one is met as an oppossing lead, you can now survive the focus Sashed variants that Shell Smash on turn one, and Rock Blast on turn two, even if all five Rock Blasts hit (and none of them crit.)

I asked my opponent to specifically bring an Adamant Cloyster, holding Focus Sash, EV spread of 252 Atk/252 Speed/4 HP, and having Skill Link as it's ability. Suppossing a crit doesn't happen, Tenacruel wins, even with the boosted Shell Smash. Here's the proof...



Code:
Battle between Skip.t.G and Vovinia started!

 

Tier: BW OU

Rule: Unrated

Rule: Wifi Battle

 

Vovinia sent out Cloyster!

Skip.t.G sent out Tentacruel!

Vovinia: sashed

Skip.t.G: same as before, please

Vovinia: yep yep

Skip.t.G: SS, the RB

 

Start of turn 1

The foe's Cloyster used Shell Smash!

The foe's Cloyster's Defense fell!

The foe's Cloyster's Sp. Def. fell!

The foe's Cloyster's Attack sharply rose!

The foe's Cloyster's Sp. Att. sharply rose!

The foe's Cloyster's Speed sharply rose!

 

Tentacruel used Acid Spray!

The foe's Cloyster lost 62% of its health!

The foe's Cloyster's Sp. Def. sharply fell!

 

 

Start of turn 2

The foe's Cloyster used Rock Blast!

Tentacruel lost 69 HP! (19% of its health)

Tentacruel lost 68 HP! (19% of its health)

Tentacruel lost 76 HP! (21% of its health)

Tentacruel lost 66 HP! (18% of its health)

Tentacruel lost 72 HP! (20% of its health)

Hit 5 times!

 

Tentacruel used Giga Drain!

It's super effective!

The foe's Cloyster lost 37% of its health!

The foe's Cloyster fainted!

The foe's Cloyster had its energy drained!

 

Skip.t.G won the battle!

Vovinia: HMM

Vovinia: Good enough for you?

Skip.t.G: Thats what i needed to know. Thanks for the help.

Skip.t.G: thanks again

Vovinia: no problem
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Old 04-03-2011, 02:11 PM
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Just to quote your log Skippy;

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Tentacruel lost 72 HP! (20% of its health)
If it does that 5 times, you're dead. I've just ran the calcs, while you can indeed survive a +2 Rock Blast with that EV spread, you need to run a Bold nature to guarantee survival. With Modest, damage output is 91-107%, with bold it's 83-96%.Of course you'll still OHKO the Cloyster regardless of your nature.
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Just to quote your log Skippy;



If it does that 5 times, you're dead. I've just ran the calcs, while you can indeed survive a +2 Rock Blast with that EV spread, you need to run a Bold nature to guarantee survival. With Modest, damage output is 91-107%, with bold it's 83-96%.Of course you'll still OHKO the Cloyster regardless of your nature.
I'll re-test, minusing 8 HP EVs, and adding them to defence with my Modest, and then without switching EVs, and going Bold. I do need to know what KOs I might be loosing though if I ditch the +Nature SpAtk. I have yet to actually get a Cloyster to get max damaage of 21% from it's Rock Blast. It's really the only lead that has given my Tentacruel problems so far.
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Old 04-05-2011, 10:57 AM
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Tested my Icy Wind theory actively for a day and a half...Scratch that idea. >_<
Yeah trying to work both strategies into a single set isnt the best idea. Kyurem is a superior choice for speed dropping, having the superior Glaciate for speed drops and far higher attacking stats. Dragon STAB and perfect coverage in two moves ([Dragon STAB]/Focus Blast] doesn't hurt either.

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I'll re-test, minusing 8 HP EVs, and adding them to defence with my Modest, and then without switching EVs, and going Bold. I do need to know what KOs I might be loosing though if I ditch the +Nature SpAtk. I have yet to actually get a Cloyster to get max damaage of 21% from it's Rock Blast. It's really the only lead that has given my Tentacruel problems so far.
Looks like you're getting lucky then, because it's within its reach to OHKO you. I'll run some calcs for you when I get home. Are there any specific KOs that can only be reached with max EVs?

On another note, scrap Black Sludge on anything bar a mono-poison team. If something is going to trick it away from you, they can quite happily trick it back at a later stage of the game to something a lot less appreciative of it.

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Old 04-05-2011, 04:33 PM
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Yeah trying to work both strategies into a single set isnt the best idea. Kyurem is a superior choice for speed dropping, having the superior Glaciate for speed drops and far higher attacking stats. Dragon STAB and perfect coverage in two moves ([Dragon STAB]/Focus Blast] doesn't hurt either.



Looks like you're getting lucky then, because it's within its reach to OHKO you. I'll run some calcs for you when I get home. Are there any specific KOs that can only be reached with max EVs?

On another note, scrap Black Sludge on anything bar a mono-poison team. If something is going to trick it away from you, they can quite happily trick it back at a later stage of the game to something a lot less appreciative of it.
Only ones I have found so far are Forrettress, which becomes a gauranteed 2HKO, Scizor, whitch become a 2HKO, and Skarmory, which becomes a 3HKO (and Genosect is a 2HKO if battling DW). So pretty much just the Steel/Bug types.
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Old 04-06-2011, 11:52 PM
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Default Re: Tentacruel (5th Gen Attacking Lead)

Double postin' in the thread again

Figured out today I was actually just barely getting the OHKO's versus Scizor. Battled one today with 244/252/0/0/0/8 and an Adamant nature that survived the HP Fire attack. >_<

Also figured out Black Sludge/Leftovers might not be necessary. They don't genrally save me from any KO's. May try Expert Belt or Lum Berry.

Also looking for a Modest EV spread to save me lead Swampert's Earthquake. I only sometimes survive it.

Expert Belt might let me not have to shift EVs to go versus Swampert with the SE Giga Drain.
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I also occasionally do wifi battles.

Last edited by Joel; 04-07-2011 at 12:49 AM.
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