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Fourth Generation Discuss the fourth generation Pokemon games: Diamond, Pearl, Platinum, HeartGold and SoulSilver.

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Old 10-02-2010, 12:55 PM
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Default Re: Whos Tougher Red or Lance?

Red By far. I beat lance easy, but with read I was in the red HP on my last Pokemon, and thats after using like 10 revives. I would have beat him quicker but every time I would get his charizards HP into the red the ***** would use a full restore. grrr

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Old 10-31-2010, 09:22 AM
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Come on now. When I researched about Red I was like.


Now I don't understand why everyone says hes so good.
1.Lances team of dragons are AMASING Good power/Speed
Especialy that garchtomp what a beast that is.

Now red.

What does red have that makes him so good all he has that i had a lil trouble with was snorlax but even than, my Vaporeon could defeat him w/o items at lvl 7X.

So now I ask you, which is tougher and why.

Red's Team of Charizard/Venusaur/Blastoise/Ash's Pikachu/Ash's Snorlax/Lapras


Lance's Team of Salamence/Gyarados/Garchtomp/Alteria/Dragonite/Charizard
Yeah Red is definately tougher. You have to choose the right team and train them to be tough enough to win. Lance was easy as long as you had a 50+ level pokemon with an ice/dragon type move.
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Old 11-09-2010, 01:59 PM
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Default Re: Whos Tougher Red or Lance?

Red by a long shot. Used a Vaporeon, Lapras, and gave Ice Punch to my Primeape on Lance. Way too easy.

Red actually takes strategy to defeat. He's the only NPC that even closely resembles a PC style character.
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Old 11-09-2010, 08:21 PM
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Red, hands down. Much harder.
Old 11-10-2010, 12:38 AM
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I felt that Red was extremeley easy. With obvious and common moves as super effective, it was a OHKO for almost every. Howeverm, Lance and hit dragons were super hard. Especially Gyrados.
Old 11-25-2010, 06:03 PM
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I battled him, but I accidently brought my level 25 shiny swinub. -.- It was also my only ice type, so he was hard. He I lost that time, and went back, and then he heals about a million times. I finally won, but with only typhlosion left at very low health.

Red was somewhat easy for me. This was my team verses his:

Snorlax vs Hitmonlee
Pikachu vs Dugtrio
Charizard vs Lugia
Venusaur vs Typhlosion
Lapras vs Venusaur
Blasetoise vs Venusaur.

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Old 11-25-2010, 08:21 PM
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Default Re: Whos Tougher Red or Lance?

Lance...It look longer to beat him and I thrashed Red.
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Old 11-27-2010, 01:05 AM
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Default Re: Whos Tougher Red or Lance?

Well d'uh, Red of course! No way you can compare some lvl 70 dragons, with FOUR OF THEM having an 4x Ice Weakness (dragonite, salamence, garchomp and altaria) and the other 4x Weaknessess to Electric and Rock (Gyarados and Charizard), to some slick trained lvl 80+ generation 1 hard hitting, 100%accurate-Blizzard-ing Pokemon? (except for Pikachu of course, as Pikachu sucks ass )
Old 11-27-2010, 02:09 AM
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Lance was easy to take down as long as you had ice moves and dragons moves on one of your pokes. I found Red to be the most challenging of the two and especially with that hail storm that's never ending! >.>

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Old 11-29-2010, 08:21 PM
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I'd say Red is tougher, with Lance, just have decent ice type moves and you win.
With Red, you need a variety of Pokes -_-
Old 12-02-2010, 01:31 AM
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Default Re: Whos Tougher Red or Lance?

For me, it's Red. I actually have to switch out for another Pokemon, whereas with Lance I can blow through him with easily with my Kingdra and Ice Beam.
Old 12-03-2010, 05:40 PM
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Red was programmed to be difficult.

I mean, if the programmers give red fricken LV. 80's, with an 88 pikachu, then obviously he isn't supposed to be blown away easily.

whereas Lance was designed the same way, except one type, one kill pokes.

i'd have to say Red. and Johto's Champion Stone.
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Old 12-05-2010, 06:53 AM
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Default Re: Whos Tougher Red or Lance?

red seems a little tougher, though either of them can be easy if you use the right pokemon. starter pokemon are always easy for me to defeat if you're faster than them and have their weakness. same goes for dragons also.
Old 12-06-2010, 07:14 AM
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I always find Lance tougher at the point in the game I'm at. Dragons are really a pain.
Old 12-06-2010, 04:00 PM
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Default Re: Whos Tougher Red or Lance?

I find Lance to be easy. Ice Beam and Thunder are all I need. Red has a variety of powerful pokemon and I had to use some strategy to beat him (Stealth Rock kicks Charizard's leathery rump). So in my opinion, Red is tougher.
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