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Old 05-20-2010, 09:30 PM
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Default Craig Venter creates the first man-made life-form

Most of you have probably seen this on the news somewhere.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/20...etic-life-form
  • Positives:
  • Lots of solutions to our worlds problems, such as:
  • Global Warming
  • Pollution
  • Disease (Cancer and HIV especially)
  • Food
  • Negatives:
  • Those religious critics
  • We can create whatever we want now. Terrorists can get bioweapons of mass destruction if they got hold of this technology.

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Old 05-20-2010, 10:07 PM
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Most of you have probably seen this on the news somewhere.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/20...etic-life-form
  • Positives:
  • Lots of solutions to our worlds problems, such as:
  • Global Warming
  • Pollution
  • Disease (Cancer and HIV especially)
  • Food
  • Negatives:
  • Those religious critics
  • We can create whatever we want now. Terrorists can get bioweapons of mass destruction if they got hold of this technology.

Opinions?
i doubt this is gonna mean anything. cause as we all know nature has avolved through millions of year of evolution and trial and error.

and that cell is most likely not gonna stand a chance if let out into the real world. lets face it people; we will never be able to create artificial life that can stand a chance outside a completely steril box.

which means no cure for cancer and no terrorist bioweapons

edit: it could be an innovation in genetics, but as far as biology is concerned, its not really important.
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Old 05-20-2010, 10:22 PM
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Okay, as cool and innovative as this is, the thought that someone managed to do this terrifies me a little.
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i doubt this is gonna mean anything. cause as we all know nature has avolved through millions of year of evolution and trial and error.

and that cell is most likely not gonna stand a chance if let out into the real world. lets face it people; we will never be able to create artificial life that can stand a chance outside a completely steril box.

which means no cure for cancer and no terrorist bioweapons

edit: it could be an innovation in genetics, but as far as biology is concerned, its not really important.
Uh, what are you on? Scientists could easily create a supervirus/bacterium that would wipe out all humankind. Such a feat is entirely within the capabilities of modern biology. I hope you get some common sense and stop making baseless statements off the top of your head.
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Okay, as cool and innovative as this is, the thought that someone managed to do this terrifies me a little.
My thoughts, pretty much. As useful as these kind of developments can be, they could also bring a lot of trouble. Then again, it's not like we can just sit and refuse to progress and grow.
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Uh, what are you on? Scientists could easily create a supervirus/bacterium that would wipe out all humankind. Such a feat is entirely within the capabilities of modern biology. I hope you get some common sense and stop making baseless statements off the top of your head.
im not saying thats impossible, im just saying artificial life ATM cannot survive in the outside world, which means that although its amazing, greg's bacteria(?) is practically useless.

its might be usefull in the future but right now its just a novelty without great importance.
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Ayotui - artificial life can survive outside the lab. One of the complaints highlighted in the article was actually that it would get out into the environment and have negative effects.

I know scientists have done similar things before using artificial DNA. They made viruses though, so I guess they're not technically living. It is pretty scary considering what people can do with the information. There is a huge potential for biological warfare. Personally I find it exciting considering that's the type of field I'm hoping to end up in.
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im not saying thats impossible, im just saying artificial life ATM cannot survive in the outside world, which means that although its amazing, greg's bacteria(?) is practically useless.

its might be usefull in the future but right now its just a novelty without great importance.
That's like saying to the person who invented the steam engine, "it's just a novelty without great importance."
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That's like saying to the person who invented the steam engine, "it's just a novelty without great importance."
ok, fine lets go with your case here. when the steam enginge was invented, it was pretty useless, but eventually it got better and better until it became very useful.

its the same with this, atm its useless. one day it might be very useful.
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ok, fine lets go with your case here. when the steam enginge was invented, it was pretty useless, but eventually it got better and better until it became very useful.

its the same with this, atm its useless. one day it might be very useful.
But it was of monumental importance. You're completely missing the point.
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Peronally, I want all the developments of this to be stopped. The risks are far too great.
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Peronally, I want all the developments of this to be stopped. The risks are far too great.
Like what?

As for the terrorists, they can get bioweapons far more easily using lower-tech methods that would be just as lethal.
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so artificial life doesn't necessarily have to mean robots or machines. Interesting. So this would be classified as biological artificial life?
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Artificial life is exactly what it sounds like >.> Artificial life has never really meant machines or robots, since few people consider those things to be "alive". Though, we can get into the whole "Can robots be sapient" thing once we create an eerily-human robot.
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