Member List
Calendar
F.A.Q.
Search
Log Out
Pokemon Forum - Pokemon Elite 2000  
 

Go Back   Pokemon Forum - Pokemon Elite 2000 » Pokemon Main Boards » Pokemon: Interactive Center » Competitive Battling » Rate My Team

Rate My Team Get your competitive battling team rated here and get help with movesets and battling strategies.


Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools
  #31  
Old 05-04-2010, 08:44 PM
Masami Offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Im British, Its not a big deal.
Posts: 898
Send a message via AIM to Masami Send a message via MSN to Masami
Default Re: Does anyone else think Tyranitar should be bumped up to Uber?

WOW, Pe2k is full of arrogant, immature peeps...

You're making a big deal over this? You dind't even answer his question, just start dogging at him? Friggin' Idiots.

I think Tyranitar would have the portential to be Uber, just as Garchomp is, If it wasn't for the 4x fighting weakness, I know Garchomp has a 4x Ice weakness, but it outspeeds most of those Ice mons and KOs them.
  #32  
Old 05-04-2010, 08:55 PM
Broderick's Avatar
Broderick Offline
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Your local Mental Asylum.
Posts: 1,769
Send a message via AIM to Broderick Send a message via MSN to Broderick
Default Re: Does anyone else think Tyranitar should be bumped up to Uber?

Simple answer: no. It's not uber.
You realize that there are people that analyze the OU metagame over on smogon, and here, and you think nobody has ever thought: "Hey, Tyranitar's really good. I wonder if it's too good?".
The reason it's not uber is because of the weakness to steel, the horrific weakness to fighting, and how steel and fighting are some of the most common types of moves in OU.
Try and remember to bring your common sense with you next time. If you want I could go into detail, do some calcs, etc and reveal the faults in your theory some more, but I don't think you want me to do that.
__________________
  #33  
Old 05-04-2010, 11:37 PM
BulletPuncher's Avatar
BulletPuncher Offline
Elite Trainer (Level 1)
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,414
Default Re: Does anyone else think Tyranitar should be bumped up to Uber?

Tyranitar is not very good in ubers, nor does he dominate the ou metagame. His ability often conflicts with drizzle and drought and is the only reason why you'd want to use him in ubers in the first place. Also, hippowdon has the same ability so it's not like ss teams are dependant in using it. Lastly, so much of the ou metagame is immune to ss damage, that many times, it's doing nothing. Sandstorm doesn't give any pseudostab boosts or speed boosts to any abilities that über weather does.
__________________
PO: BulletPuncher
  #34  
Old 05-05-2010, 03:30 AM
mankey_backsprite's Avatar
mankey_backsprite Offline
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 43
Default Re: Does anyone else think Tyranitar should be bumped up to Uber?

Quote:
Originally Posted by grrrCHOMP View Post

What is it for? Judging by other people's posts, I'm guessing your jumping on the "grrrCHOMP is a troll!" bandwagon. So it's fine and dandy if Near calls me stupid, but the instant I retaliate and call him stupid, it's trolling? Wow.
I actually assumed you were trolling because this is an assanine topic that is completely ludacris because Tar is nowhere near uber material for a billion reasons. Namely, he has weaknesses to: Steel, Ground, Water, Grass, Fighting and Bug and takes Neutral damage from alot of stuff. Everything listed above bar Bug are very common attacking types in OU so he is in check in many ways. You are a troll or completely ******* stupid if you honestly believe Tyranitar is Uber material. Also you contradicted yourself several times as pointed out in a post on the first page and you said that moving a pokemon to the uber tier somehow makes it better, so yeah, you tell me why people are making fun of you.

  #35  
Old 11-26-2010, 05:34 PM
pkmnrulz's Avatar
pkmnrulz Offline
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: NYC derp
Posts: 326
Default Re: Does anyone else think Tyranitar should be bumped up to Uber?

tyranitar suffers from too many weaknesses, almost like celebi. in the ubers basically everything counters him from mewtwo( grass knot), kyogre( water attacks), palkia ( surf/ hydro pump), groudon ( eq), rayquaza(eq), garchomp(eq), and a bunch of others. if he ever does (which he won't) he will have trouble with so many weaknesses.
__________________
Pokemon stuff

->top16 vgc2012 New jersey
->6th place vgc 2012 Rhode Island
->Highest rated american on random match-ups double!!!
  #36  
Old 12-28-2010, 05:00 PM
White_Rabbit's Avatar
White_Rabbit Offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Never Never Wonderland!
Posts: 334
Send a message via AIM to White_Rabbit
Default Re: Does anyone else think Tyranitar should be bumped up to Uber?

so what i'm wondering is why we can't mix tiers?

like the NU pokes Dustox and what-not in the OU and still dominate. i'm sure its been done.

so why can't the poor kid just use his Tyranitar in his Uber team and just get wiped. or whatever. honestly it shouldn't make a difference what he uses as long as its not ridiculous.

like a OU tier battle and grrrCHOMP uses his UBER team or something.


ya... tossing the shovel.
__________________
thats right little girl, follow the little white bunny...
  #37  
Old 12-28-2010, 05:34 PM
LittleOne's Avatar
LittleOne Offline
New Trainer
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Canada
Posts: 3
Default Re: Does anyone else think Tyranitar should be bumped up to Uber?

Quote:
Originally Posted by grrrCHOMP View Post
Tyranitar's Sand Stream ability multiplies his special defense by 1.5, thereby giving him an effective base stat total of 650, almost as much as the 680 Pokemon. What's more, Sand Stream is a broken ability, as it causes a permanent whether effect on the field. People say that if Luvdisc had the Drizzle ability it would become Uber. Why should it be any different for Tyranitar? Also, if Tyranitar were Uber, then I could use him in conjunction with Garchomp (my favorite Pokemon) on my Ubers team so that Garchomp could utilize its Sand Stream ability. As it stands, however, Tyranitar is stuck in OU, so I can't use him on my Ubers team.
lol you're an idiot. This convo should be closed.
__________________
FC: 3267 2325 8243
  #38  
Old 12-28-2010, 06:59 PM
Grimowl's Avatar
Grimowl Offline
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Norway
Posts: 17
Default Re: Does anyone else think Tyranitar should be bumped up to Uber?

Wow, I remembered this forum as much nicer. What happened?

Anyways, I agree. The base argument for keeping him in OU is that he'd be a bad über.

OU is THE most competitively played tier. There's absolutely no doubt about it, it's the most used, period. Thus, by logic, it's the tier to balance around.

Tyranitar is either an overpowered OU or a relatively bad über. Now, what's best - to let a pokemon dominate the most competitive tier or to let it have reduced appearance in a rarely played one? As much as I think Tyranitar is an awesome pokemon that I loved on my newbteam back in the good ol' Gold/Silver/Crystal days, as a competitive player I really dislike the idea of pokemon dominating. I've been arguing for several of the most OU pokemons since Garchomp arrived and several RSE ubers became OU, and I'm going to keep on. Ruins the diversity of teams once seen:/
  #39  
Old 12-28-2010, 10:21 PM
MrX-RubyGamer's Avatar
MrX-RubyGamer Offline
Amateur Trainer
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 85
Send a message via MSN to MrX-RubyGamer
Default Re: Does anyone else think Tyranitar should be bumped up to Uber?

Tyranitar should NOT be an uber, due to the fact that..... most "Ubers" that are classified "ubers" on PE2K dont have either evolved forms or pre-evovled forms.. they are "legendaries"
__________________
.:Pokérus Empire Member:.
I am also the lead Breeder for PokéServices

PEARL FC: 3868 4880 7011
  #40  
Old 12-29-2010, 08:41 AM
Viva la Gofre's Avatar
Viva la Gofre Offline
Stand your ground, this is ancient land.
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Merry Old England
Posts: 1,540
Default Re: Does anyone else think Tyranitar should be bumped up to Uber?

*Head-desk* *head-desk*

Quote:
Anyways, I agree. The base argument for keeping him in OU is that he'd be a bad über.
No, the argument for keeping him in OU is that he is no way broken or centralising in the OU metagame. Tyranitar's strong and all, but virtually any well built team can handle him.

Quote:
OU is THE most competitively played tier. There's absolutely no doubt about it, it's the most used, period. Thus, by logic, it's the tier to balance around.
Actually both OU and UU receive equal attention in terms of suspect testing and ensuring the tier is stable. When Smogon, the guys who've determined the tiers we've played by for the entire fourth generation, announce the opportunity for suspect nominations and testing in UU, there's equal levels of participation to the OU noms/testing.

Quote:
Tyranitar is either an overpowered OU or a relatively bad über.
Nope, he's neither.

Quote:
Now, what's best - to let a pokemon dominate the most competitive tier or to let it have reduced appearance in a rarely played one
You'd have a point if Tyranitar was dominating, but he isn't.

Quote:
I've been arguing for several of the most OU pokemons since Garchomp
If they're broken, then that's fine, but the idea that a pokemon should be removed from the OverUsed tier just because you think it's overused is pretty stupid.

Quote:
Ruins the diversity of teams once seen:/
So? Metagames are not built around encouraging creativity or diversity, they're built around creating staple environments for competitive play to undergo. Unfortunately in any competitive environment there are going to become preferred techniques or strategies that are used by the majority. Pokemon's no different.

Quote:
Tyranitar should NOT be an uber, due to the fact that..... most "Ubers" that are classified "ubers" on PE2K dont have either evolved forms or pre-evovled forms.. they are "legendaries"
Neither of these things have anything to do with how tiering is decided.
  #41  
Old 12-29-2010, 05:09 PM
White_Rabbit's Avatar
White_Rabbit Offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Never Never Wonderland!
Posts: 334
Send a message via AIM to White_Rabbit
Default Re: Does anyone else think Tyranitar should be bumped up to Uber?

Quote:
Originally Posted by grrrCHOMP View Post
And? You made a spelling error, but you don't see me criticizing you over that. And all of those "controdictions" were just your own misunderstandings of what I was saying.
how very kind.

Quote:
Originally Posted by grrrCHOMP View Post
I misspelled "contradiction" on purpose to criticize how shinyshuckle had misspelled the word "contradicted." Geez, some people here sure are dense, and then they have the gall to call me stupid...
but you just said you wasn't gonna criticize Shucky!


Quote:
Originally Posted by grrrCHOMP View Post
What is it for? Judging by other people's posts, I'm guessing your jumping on the "grrrCHOMP is a troll!" bandwagon. So it's fine and dandy if Near calls me stupid, but the instant I retaliate and call him stupid, it's trolling? Wow.
well your name does kind of stand out. i suggest you change it to something a little less obvious.


Quote:
Originally Posted by grrrCHOMP View Post
Thank you. And thanks to all the other people in this thread who actually helped me instead of calling me names.
it takes two to tango
__________________
thats right little girl, follow the little white bunny...
  #42  
Old 01-11-2011, 08:20 AM
Kenny's Avatar
Kenny Offline
Elite Trainer (Level 1)
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: ATL
Posts: 1,180
Default Re: Does anyone else think Tyranitar should be bumped up to Uber?

TTar is pretty good, especially with a scarf, but he is not Uber.
  #43  
Old 01-11-2011, 03:04 PM
BulletPuncher's Avatar
BulletPuncher Offline
Elite Trainer (Level 1)
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,414
Default Re: Does anyone else think Tyranitar should be bumped up to Uber?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenny View Post
TTar is pretty good, especially with a scarf, but he is not Uber.
Thank you for posting on an old thread.
__________________
PO: BulletPuncher
Closed Thread


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 07:24 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Style Design: AlienSector.com