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Old 01-07-2007, 12:03 AM
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Groudon @ Leftovers
Adamant Nature
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- Swords Dance
- Solarbeam
- Rock Slide

Though it isn't the normal set I'd use, is it any good? Just over-took Overheat for solarbeam since Groudon's ability is drought. then again, another poke could use rain dance or hail ...
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Old 01-07-2007, 12:05 AM
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Thats the set I use excpet with bulk up instead of swords dance.
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Old 01-07-2007, 12:09 AM
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Thats the set I use excpet with bulk up instead of swords dance.
dude i was just gonna say that freaky..
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Old 01-07-2007, 02:05 AM
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Swords dance is always better than Bulk up. Solarbeam, on the other side is useless, as any water type receives more damage from Stab EQ than it does from Solarbeam, coming from Groudon's mediocre Satk stat. Fire blast or HP bug are much better in Solarbeam's slot
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Old 01-07-2007, 09:58 AM
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Swords dance is always better than Bulk up. Solarbeam, on the other side is useless, as any water type receives more damage from Stab EQ than it does from Solarbeam, coming from Groudon's mediocre Satk stat. Fire blast or HP bug are much better in Solarbeam's slot
Fire Blast really isn't that useful in Ubers, because most Pokemon resist Fire. HP Bug is better imo.
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Old 01-09-2007, 10:04 AM
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I'm trying to do a different set to this:

Groudon @ Leftovers
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
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- Overheat / Hidden Power [Bug]
- Rock Slide
- Swords Dance
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Old 01-09-2007, 06:45 PM
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any water type receives more damage from Stab EQ than it does from Solarbeam



swampert
kabutops
whiscash
quagsire
corsola
relichanth

and more!!


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Old 01-09-2007, 06:53 PM
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swampert
kabutops
whiscash
quagsire
corsola
relichanth

and more!!
Alright then, let me rephrase it; any water type that's useful in Ubers
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Old 01-10-2007, 01:53 AM
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Swampert isnt that bad in Ubers. :\ And Quagsire is probably the best counter for substituting kyogre.
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Swampert isnt that bad in Ubers
you're right. It's horrible

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And Quagsire is probably the best counter for substituting kyogre.
No one uses Sub Kyogre anymore, and Quag is an easy switch out
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you're right. It's horrible
Why is it so bad?
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Why is it so bad?
note: This is about Swampert in Ubers

It's horrible because it can't really switch into anything without taking a buckload of damage; it's horrible because it can't really damage anything; it's horrible because a piss easy switch out, you're basically begging for Latios to switch on you and start CM'ing (And no one wants that), and it's horrible because the Uber metagame is stallish, and Swampert doesn't help breaking stall at all.
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Old 01-13-2007, 05:05 AM
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Most of the time it's not fantastic, but my Swampy once took down a DD Quaza and a CM Mewtwo (it was 3-on-3). Since I do ingame I don't the HP Bug option, a Fire move is still better than Solar Beam though, hits Skarm who is often used in Ubers, usually with Blissey. Also hits the idiots who use Shedinja (there's always one).
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