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Old 01-09-2007, 08:07 PM
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Vaporeon (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Water Absorb
EVs: 116 HP / 252 Def / 28 SAtk / 112 SDef
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Haze
- Ice Beam
- Surf
- Wish

Tyranitar (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP / 68 Spd / 188 SAtk
Quiet Nature (+SAtk, -Spd)
- Crunch
- Focus Punch
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

Don't tell me he is old because this guy owns all.

Metagross @ Leftovers
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 136 HP / 36 Atk / 96 Def / 48 Spd / 136 SAtk / 56 SDef
Hardy Nature (Neutral) <--- Nature Suggestions?
- Explosion
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Meteor Mash
- Psychic

Salamence (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 16 HP / 240 Spd / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Crunch
- Fire Blast
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Hydro Pump

Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 60 HP / 136 Atk / 136 Def / 176 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Curse
- Earthquake
- Rest
- Return

Raikou @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 76 HP / 96 Def / 136 Spd / 144 SAtk / 56 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt
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Old 01-09-2007, 09:31 PM
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Default Re: Rmt

Snorlax has enough Sp. Def, so give it Impish.
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Old 01-09-2007, 09:39 PM
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Default Re: Rmt

na keep careful, curselax is meant to be careful. Metagross should have thunderpunch>hp fire for a 2hko on skarm and gyara. Psychic is not needed. The stab won't help. Heres the metagross I use:
Metagross @ Choice Band
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 252 Atk / 164 Def / 36 SAtk / 56 SDef
Brave Nature (+Atk, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Meteor Mash
- Thunderpunch

Elemence is kinda surprising but I don't like it that much. No-one switches skarm into mence anyway in fear of a FT/FB. And if you switch a mence into skarm, it's obvious that a special move is coming so they'll switch. IMO curselax needs more HP>Attack. And that vaporeon lead doesn't look to great.

Also your team doesn't seem to like a DD tar. Especially a sub dd tar.

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Old 01-09-2007, 09:55 PM
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Default Re: Rmt

Quote:
Originally Posted by Prince_Rilian View Post
Vaporeon (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Water Absorb
EVs: 116 HP / 252 Def / 28 SAtk / 112 SDef
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Haze
- Ice Beam
- Surf
- Wish

I'd personally use around 212 Hp Evs. It doesn't need all that Sdef

Tyranitar (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP / 68 Spd / 188 SAtk
Quiet Nature (+SAtk, -Spd)
- Crunch
- Focus Punch
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

Metagross @ Leftovers
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 136 HP / 36 Atk / 96 Def / 48 Spd / 136 SAtk / 56 SDef
Hardy Nature (Neutral) <--- Nature Suggestions?
- Explosion
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Meteor Mash
- Psychic

Use Brave, and shift Speed to Atk. This thing needs max HP imo. 252 HP / 88 Atk / 56 Def / 76 SAtk / 36 SDef are better EVs. Also, you need EQ, unless you want Magneton and Jirachi setting up on you

Salamence (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 16 HP / 240 Spd / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Crunch
- Fire Blast
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Hydro Pump

Crunch is kinda meh, doesn't hit anything the other moves already hit. Wish is much better to have some support. This thing only needs 270 Speed too

Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 60 HP / 136 Atk / 136 Def / 176 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Curse
- Earthquake
- Rest
- Return

Fine

Raikou @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 76 HP / 96 Def / 136 Spd / 144 SAtk / 56 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

I'd much rather use Timid to outspeed Adamant Dugtrio, but eh
Swampert in general (Specifically Cursepert) will give you problems. I know Mence can own it one-on-one, but having a counter that is 4x weak to Ice beam is never good. Also watch out for CM Celebi and Tyranitar in general
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Old 01-10-2007, 01:50 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Prince_Rilian View Post
Vaporeon (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Water Absorb
EVs: 116 HP / 252 Def / 28 SAtk / 112 SDef
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Haze
- Ice Beam
- Surf
- Wish

Tyranitar (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP / 68 Spd / 188 SAtk
Quiet Nature (+SAtk, -Spd)
- Crunch
- Focus Punch
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

Don't tell me he is old because this guy owns all.

Metagross @ Leftovers
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 136 HP / 36 Atk / 96 Def / 48 Spd / 136 SAtk / 56 SDef
Hardy Nature (Neutral) <--- Nature Suggestions?
- Explosion
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Meteor Mash
- Psychic

Salamence (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 16 HP / 240 Spd / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Crunch
- Fire Blast
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Hydro Pump

Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 60 HP / 136 Atk / 136 Def / 176 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Curse
- Earthquake
- Rest
- Return

Raikou @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 76 HP / 96 Def / 136 Spd / 144 SAtk / 56 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt
One comment I like it and I dont think you should change it.
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Old 01-10-2007, 07:31 AM
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Default Re: Rmt

Vaporeon doesn't need a -speed nature unless you are BPing wishes. The point with bp is that you give it as low speed as possible (including dropping the IV to 0) so then when you BP the next turn they are more likely to be faster than you and hit vaporeon instead of the recipient. Since you're not BPing, you'll be switching to pass wishes which means you might as well make it Bold and add that little extra speed. Yeah like lucavi said it's better with more HP.
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Old 01-10-2007, 11:58 PM
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Default Re: Rmt

Thanks for the rates, I will be trying my new Vaporeon out soon.
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