Pokerus Empire:Never Say Die

[iChaos]

shoot. I had Pokemon white guys, but my brother sold it w/o asking. Imma try to get BW2 and change my weefee back. Is there anything new to weefee battling I should know about?

[Lost Soul]

here's what i have for the drizzle room team:

Politoad@???
Drizzle
Quiet
252HP/252Sp Atk/4Sp Def
Encore/Scald/Ice Beam/Surf

Audino@Leftovers
Regenerator
Sassy
252HP/252Sp Def/4 Def
Trick Room/Wish/Toxic/???

Dusclops@eviolite
Pressure
Relaxed
252HP/252Def/4Atk
Trick Room/W-o-W/Pain Split/Shadow Sneak

Scizor@Life Orb
Technician
Brave
252HP/252Atk/4Def
Swords Dance/Bullet Punch/U-Turn/Brick Break

last two are open, but i'm looking for a spec sweeper, maybe porygon z, and either a tank or another sweeper

it's been a while so if anything needs to change let me know, thanks in advance guys

[Master Aqua]

Originally Posted by Lost Soul

here's what i have for the drizzle room team:

Politoad@???
Drizzle
Quiet
252HP/252Sp Atk/4Sp Def
Encore/Scald/Ice Beam/Surf

Audino@Leftovers
Regenerator
Sassy
252HP/252Sp Def/4 Def
Trick Room/Wish/Toxic/???

Dusclops@eviolite
Pressure
Relaxed
252HP/252Def/4Atk
Trick Room/W-o-W/Pain Split/Shadow Sneak

Scizor@Life Orb
Technician
Brave
252HP/252Atk/4Def
Swords Dance/Bullet Punch/U-Turn/Brick Break

last two are open, but i'm looking for a spec sweeper, maybe porygon z, and either a tank or another sweeper

it's been a while so if anything needs to change let me know, thanks in advance guys

I don't think it's really worth it, you'd be better off with just a regular offfensive trick room teams as most slow waters are either too weak or can speed up (shell smash anyone?). I would suggest going down any trick room team you wnat to be as offensive as possible, bulky to be specific so i would ditch audino, it's pretty worthless anyways weak and lacking the ability to take heavy hits, nice in nu bad in ou. Dusknoir might make a better bet for trick room teams to keep offensive momentum up as dusclopes relies heavily on nightshade ect to do any real damage, speaking of damage dealers marowak has always been a solid choice for trick room as is slowbro, snorlax ect all bulky yet powerful.



also technition has hown to be very effective for breloom in dw, you see breeloom gets two essential moves to make him scizor like effectiveness. match punch and bullet seed the later of which is a slightly weaker seeed bomb but can be more powerful than focus punch!

[Judge Dredd]

Originally Posted by iChaos

shoot. I had Pokemon white guys, but my brother sold it w/o asking. Imma try to get BW2 and change my weefee back. Is there anything new to weefee battling I should know about?

Thats great man!

@Lost, im inclined to agree with V.

[Lost Soul]

i'm used to playing stall so that's the way i look at things, i've always felt that 3 or 4 offensive pokemon were enough, but that was when everyone was still feeling their way through gen 5, *shrug* I just thought that setting up TR meant that losing momentum was a given, hahaha

though i have to say about audino, the set i listed worked pretty well in OU (again when people were still feeling out Gen 5) it wasn't weak to dark type attacks (which a lot of TR users are) and the EV spread allowed me to take a special attack, set up, and heal up with regenerator on the switch, it could also pass a 205 wish giving a dirty switch-in survivability, i agree it's not the bulkiest, but with a spec def ev spread and only focus blast being the common SE spec atk predictable switch-in's aren't too difficult, though P-2 would probably be a better offensive TR user in it's place, i just liked the thought of using the weird little rat thing and people underestimating it lol,

i also equate running TR as bulky-O, but, and correct me if i'm wrong, being able to move the speed ev's to HP means that more pokemon can be, at the very least, on the outer limits of bulkiness, opening up options to pokemon that are sub 100 speed tier and decent offensive base stats, something like a luke, or gallade, and if TR is still up, being able to survive a OHKO and then taking out the opposing pokemon with a 2HKO, means that being super powerful isn't as necessary,

just my thoughts, not trying to be difficult, or confrontational JIC this gets read wrong lol, but just discussing the pros and cons helps in getting me back into the game

but if i want to keep trying to build a TR team, i should scrap weather, and go for a more offensive TR team, which includes the Trick roomers right? i'll put this on the back burner and if i can find a way to make it work i'll bring it back up,

how about dusclops and Porygon-2 as my offensive trick roomers?

[Master Aqua]

I wouldn't call dusclopes as offenive Xd.


I got a dw breloom, tis the bollocks, waiting on getting dw ditto, it's not as easy as i don't think i can hack breed it

EDIT: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3468390 mence got outrage moxie and dragon dance, gliscor got Sr and roost with toxic heal and pretty much every move in 4th gen as a tm or move touter is back and multiscale lugia = god of stall and possibly offensive like nite lugia is a speedy birdie, ho-oh is no longer useless and dragonite got supper power

[Judge Dredd]

I personally love P2 and think it is a great asset to any team..lol

[Lost Soul]

Originally Posted by Vanitas

I wouldn't call dusclopes as offenive Xd.


I got a dw breloom, tis the bollocks, waiting on getting dw ditto, it's not as easy as i don't think i can hack breed it

EDIT: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3468390 mence got outrage moxie and dragon dance, gliscor got Sr and roost with toxic heal and pretty much every move in 4th gen as a tm or move touter is back and multiscale lugia = god of stall and possibly offensive like nite lugia is a speedy birdie, ho-oh is no longer useless and dragonite got supper power

no me neither, but it is one of my favorite evolutionary lines lol

how about this so far:
-or-

as for the other news, i'm guessing that mence and gliscor will be up in suspect sometime soon?

[Master Aqua]

Originally Posted by Lost Soul

no me neither, but it is one of my favorite evolutionary lines lol

how about this so far:
-or-

as for the other news, i'm guessing that mence and gliscor will be up in suspect sometime soon?

that seems soilid and stick to rencious it's much more useful than gardivoir thanks to magic guard


douptful, moxie outrage is overated and roost is not too signifcant to toxic gliscor it suffers from 4 move slot syndrom still

[Princess_Eevee9]

US release Date is October 7th and October 12th for EU OMG!! Also Van I disagree Ho-Oh was never useless if it was it would have never made it to Ubers it's just that's it's balanced and not as cheap as some of the other Ubers! Also I think Lost should keep Audino since he mentioned before how he loved the Pokemon and even though it's outclassed it still has major uses!

So yeah thanks to the Move Tutors I'm remaking the Coil Serperior I made a year ago and I'm actually looking into Perservity sets as well so I can remake and tweak to my liking !!

[Master Aqua]

little typo there eevee it's the 12th for europe, which is a shame i like it when we get stuff before the states.

[Judge Dredd]

are you talking about black and white 2 ?

[Daigon]

Originally Posted by Judge Dredd

are you talking about black and white 2 ?

Yup another chance to start over

[Princess_Eevee9]

Yeah I only glanced at it when I was waking up this morning and I noticed my blundered when I was going to school so I couldn't fix it and I figured you would get what I meant :)! ALso nope I like it when we get Pokemon games before Europe since it's always been a pattern I mean take Lost Story and be happy >.> I'm still waiting for that and it what I saw was true off Gamefaqs you guys should also have Heroes of Ruin

EU 12th!
US 7th!

Also Lost are you getting the Japanese version again? I'm looking for someone with the games aleady so I can instantly get Challenge Mode and start playing!

Also you guys are getting One Piece Unlimited Cruise with no confirmed US release date so we derserve this!

[Judge Dredd]

so you guys are pretty excited about the release ?