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Occupy wall street looks to be one of the most influential movements in recent American history. As I'm typing this, it has entered and went past the 1 month mark.
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Old 10-19-2011, 04:54 AM
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I've been saying it for months, social revolution was all but inevitable. It's just too bad the most visible protestors are also horrible representatives for what is a very reasonable point of view.
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I can disagree and agree with that of the protesters. I know that Wall Street controls way too much, but I am also upset with this mentality that corporations are wrong.
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I can disagree and agree with that of the protesters. I know that Wall Street controls way too much, but I am also upset with this mentality that corporations are wrong.
After going to Occupy DC I'd say it's a small minority who think that corporations are inherently wrong, they more or less have an issue with crony capitalism.
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I am confused. Are you saying they are fed up with capitalism as a whole, or the corrupt mess that the U.S is facing right now? I am a firm believer that a combination between social and capital economies would make a swell idea... on paper.
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I am confused. Are you saying they are fed up with capitalism as a whole, or the corrupt mess that the U.S is facing right now? I am a firm believer that a combination between social and capital economies would make a swell idea... on paper.
Well the problem with an organically grown movement like this (as opposed to, say, the Tea Party, which was largely very organized) is that there is no definitive message because nobody defined what it was supposed to be about beforehand. So everyone joining came in with their own concept. I happen to know for a fact, for instance, that at least a small chunk of them are there because legalize pot.

The general gist of it, though, isn't so much an issue with capitalism itself as an issue with our own capitalist system, which allows not only for a small percentage of the population to control the wealth and buy out the government, but also for things like the 2008 economic crash, where the Wall Street bankers who effectively destroyed our economy were not only not punished, but actually bailed out with taxpayer money, resulting in them ending up thriving where everyone else was screwed over by their greed and incompetence. Basically it's a call for an economic system that isn't inherently equal, not socialist, but is fair and honestly capitalistic.
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Eh. Let them do what they want to do. It may or may not change anything. We will have to see.
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I can disagree and agree with that of the protesters. I know that Wall Street controls way too much, but I am also upset with this mentality that corporations are wrong.
I have a deep belief that giving corporations the rights of a person (which is what they have) is wrong. Politicians were bought enough to get that across as well.

Most of the movement's people don't actually have anything against capitalism though, from what I've seen (which is in direct opposition to what FOX news broadcasted). Rather they are much more about being against the investment banking sector that caused the crisis in the first place.

Here's an interesting video about OWS, in a Canadian news show here.

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I am confused. Are you saying they are fed up with capitalism as a whole, or the corrupt mess that the U.S is facing right now? I am a firm believer that a combination between social and capital economies would make a swell idea... on paper.
The majority of them are fed up with crony capitalism.
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Corruption is all you had to say and I would have agreed with you.
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Corruption is all you had to say and I would have agreed with you.
That isn't the entirety of the problem, though.
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So that's why there's a bunch of people sleeping in ******* tents and sleeping bags downtown. Cool, I'm all for this call to really reexamine our suspect economic policy.

Just thought this was funny (from the Wikipedia page):
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H.L. Hunt's granddaughter, Leah Hunt-Hendrix, 28, a doctoral student at Princeton writing her dissertation on the history of solidarity, joined OWS protesters, and said. “We should acknowledge our privilege and claim the responsibilities that come with it.”
It's an inside joke, and no one else would probably find it funny if they did know the joke, but it's funny to me. I also thought this was funny:

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Glenn Beck said, "Capitalists, if you think that you can play footsies with these people, you are wrong. They will come for you and drag you into the streets and kill you. They will do it. They’re not messing around".
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So that's why there's a bunch of people sleeping in ******* tents and sleeping bags downtown. Cool, I'm all for this call to really reexamine our suspect economic policy.

Just thought this was funny (from the Wikipedia page):


It's an inside joke, and no one else would probably find it funny if they did know the joke, but it's funny to me. I also thought this was funny:
I didn't find the Glenn Beck one funny at all. I found it disturbing that he would say such a thing. And bear in mind that I've willingly watched and/or listened to Glenn Beck every few weeks in an attempt to understand his twisted mind, failing miserably mind you as I've been at it for a year and am really no closer at all, and am therefore generally desensitized to his insanity for the most part.
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