Originally Posted by The hard road
After what you guys said would shuckle still be usable in NU?
Not as a dedicated wall, it's just setup bait. Knock Off/Encore/Toxic/Rest is the standard Shuckle set, and allows it to actually achieve something. Knock Off nerfs choice attackers who need the raw power to function, or defensive pokemon reliant of lefties for recovery. Encore buys you free turns for your own pokemon to set up, if you can keep your opponent either using boosting moves or an attack your own poke is immune to. Toxic is Toxic, and Rest gives you the chance at a last-ditch toxic stall if you're left solely with Shuckle in play. Max HP is vital, huge defence stats are nice and all but it doesn't count for much if Blissey can come in and 2HKO you with Seismic Toss. Max HP grants the largest boost of survivability, the remaining EVs can be split between the two defensive stats for general survivability.