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First & Second Generations Discuss the first and second generation games: Red, Blue, Yellow, Gold, Silver and Crystal.


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Old 03-14-2010, 03:31 AM
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Default Wait, i can't trade to the new Generations!?!?

NOOOOOOO!!!!! I've just recently started playing Silver again, trying to get some pokemon to eventually transfer up to the new games. The I learned...I CAN'T DO THAT?! WTF? this is really aggravating, like, whats the point of all the pokemon i've captured?!

I mean, it wouldn't be a big deal if they would just stay with me forever, but apparently the BATTERY WILL DIE AND ERASE THEM?! agggh, all those hours of softresetting for a shiny lugia...wasted...


i dont really wanna play Silver anymore knowing that i wont be able to take them with me...


anyone else feeling my frustration?
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Old 03-14-2010, 04:11 AM
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NOOOOOOO!!!!! Then I learned...I CAN'T DO THAT?! WTF?
how did you learn of this and Why can't you trade them? sorry to be all 20 questions.
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Old 03-14-2010, 04:32 AM
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how did you learn of this and Why can't you trade them? sorry to be all 20 questions.
I think he means the old Silver version (GBC) to the newer version games
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Old 03-14-2010, 05:10 AM
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I think he means the old Silver version (GBC) to the newer version games
Acctualy you can but it will take a while. first silver to fire red. then firered to ruby. then ruby to emrald. then emrald to pearl. then pearl to platinum. then platinum to hg/ss. atleast i think this would work. but idk. and sorry if ny spelling is bad cause im doing this on my dsi although im suppose to be asleap xD
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Old 03-14-2010, 05:20 AM
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Default Re: Wait, i can't trade to the new Generations!?!?

Yea, it stinks. I dont think they are going to do anything like that anymore though. However hacking is so bad for these games putting effort into anything is rather pointless.
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Old 03-14-2010, 05:50 AM
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Acctualy you can but it will take a while. first silver to fire red. then firered to ruby. then ruby to emrald. then emrald to pearl. then pearl to platinum. then platinum to hg/ss. atleast i think this would work. but idk. and sorry if ny spelling is bad cause im doing this on my dsi although im suppose to be asleap xD
Um, what?

Red/Blue/Yellow/Gold/Silver/Crystal cannot interact with any of the modern generation games at all.
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Old 03-14-2010, 06:23 AM
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Um, what?

Red/Blue/Yellow/Gold/Silver/Crystal cannot interact with any of the modern generation games at all.
oh well that just sucks cause i didnt know 100% cause the first game i EVER traded on was diamond to pearl xD
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Old 03-14-2010, 07:05 PM
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Default Re: Wait, i can't trade to the new Generations!?!?

Yeah, the first two generations (RBY/GSC) can't trade to the two newer ones (RSE/DPPt/HGSS) because of the limited functions on the GBC games.
I thought that was common knowledge; I mean, I've known since I was 10

Y'see, natures and all that weren't incorporated into the games until Gen 3, so trying to trade between them won't compute on the new games.
I dunno about EVs and IVs and all that, though. I was still pretty clueless when I was 10 XD

Anyways, that's why they remade the GSC games into HGSS, so people who wanted to experience or continue their trip in Johto/Kanto could do it without their battery dying on them constantly.
That, and they knew it'd sell like hotcakes, making them richer than they need to be.
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Old 03-14-2010, 10:59 PM
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IVs used to only go up to 15, and EVs didn't exist, instead there was "stat experience" which was a sort of early form of EVs. That and no natures, so yeah, like it's been said, old Pokemon wouldn't "compute" on the new games.

Also in the old games, whether a Pokemon was "shiny" was based on IVs, and now it's based on PID, so it wouldn't work there either.

I'm glad that things start to become untradeable, it helps so that they can actually update the mechanics and make them fit. :)
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Old 03-15-2010, 10:28 PM
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I thought that was common knowledge; I mean, I've known since I was 10
I'm struggling to determine how you didn't know this information; Michelle is right, I thought it was quite simple to pick up? :/
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Old 03-16-2010, 02:23 PM
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Default Re: Wait, i can't trade to the new Generations!?!?

I thought Crystal could trade to Pokemon Stadium 2 and then from there you could trade to R/S/E. It was pretty much the only way you could get a Surfing Pikachu up till Colosseum came out. Yeah.
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Old 03-16-2010, 05:55 PM
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You'd think you would be able to, too, but NO, Nintendo won't let me play GB games on DS! Jerks...
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Old 03-17-2010, 06:27 AM
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Default Re: Wait, i can't trade to the new Generations!?!?

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I'm struggling to determine how you didn't know this information; Michelle is right, I thought it was quite simple to pick up? :/
i guess you were wrong? i never got past crystal so how would i have known?
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Old 03-17-2010, 06:20 PM
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Default Re: Wait, i can't trade to the new Generations!?!?

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I thought Crystal could trade to Pokemon Stadium 2 and then from there you could trade to R/S/E. It was pretty much the only way you could get a Surfing Pikachu up till Colosseum came out. Yeah.
I wish that were, true, but it's not, so...= /

But let me clarify by saying that all Pokemon games released before 2003 (the release of Ruby and Sapphire) have no connectivity whatsoever with the games released after 2003. This is because Ruby and Sapphire introduced a complete overhaul of the training system with new IV properties, natures, and a more delicate EV training process. All the Pokemon before 2003 weren't designed the same way, and thus they couldn't be transferred. It's kind of unfortunate, but I, for one, enjoyed abusing Suicune's god-like stats in Stadium 2 while it lasted.
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Old 03-18-2010, 06:44 PM
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Default Re: Wait, i can't trade to the new Generations!?!?

I am constantly amazed that people that are so into Pokémon enough to join an online forum and all that still don't know all that much about the games. It's a fair question and all, just surprising is all. But then again, I guess that's why you would join the forum in the first place, to learn is all. Anyways, for what it's worth. I'm pretty sure all the games list what other games they are compatible with on the box, so FYI for next time.
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