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Old 08-21-2009, 02:01 PM
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I know this probably sounds dumb but do i roll for critical hits when using the old calc? Also, what is the percentage of an attack being a critical hit, besides the attacks specified as 12.5%?
Always roll for CH. Also, in URPG any move specified as having a high critical hit ratio has a 25% chance of being a CH, otherwise no chance at all.
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Old 08-21-2009, 02:27 PM
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OH so only certain moves can be a CH?
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Old 08-21-2009, 02:29 PM
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OH so only certain moves can be a CH?
Not accounting for Focus Energy or Super Scope, yeah.
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Old 08-21-2009, 02:58 PM
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I didn't say that CHs don't ignore Reflect/Light Screen. Apparently the new calc does ignores it then. which is correct. However, the damage done by a critical hit daage by a user with ATK-1, BRN, and Reflect set up on the opponent is different from the manual calculations done in the old calc.

By using the new calculator as well, people don't even know how to do Adaptability, critical hits and various simple stuffs like Reflect and Burn attack drop. It's really irritating when you're ref testing someone, and they don't know how to do Reflect/critical hits, just because they've relied on the new calculator all along. But that's just imo.
The reason why an mon using a CH with Atk-1 and BRN on a mon with reflect is different, is cause the new calc actually ignored the -1 att and the reflect, but keeps the burn, as it should do. Thus the new calc is correct. Manual calculations can be off if you didn't know that's the case.

And that's why iirc Mike made the use of the new calc illegal during ref tests. Just flunk them if they use it, cause they apparantly don't know how to ref up to standards.
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Old 08-21-2009, 03:48 PM
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The reason why an mon using a CH with Atk-1 and BRN on a mon with reflect is different, is cause the new calc actually ignored the -1 att and the reflect, but keeps the burn, as it should do. Thus the new calc is correct. Manual calculations can be off if you didn't know that's the case.
I know that CHs ignore negative stat values of the user and Reflect/Light Screen, but still take into account of Burn.

But both damages are still different on the new and old calcs.
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I know that CHs ignore negative stat values of the user and Reflect/Light Screen, but still take into account of Burn.

But both damages are still different on the new and old calcs.
Like I said, that's because there are differences in the damage formula for both calcs. There is no CH modifier or BRN modifier in the old calc.
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Old 08-21-2009, 10:35 PM
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Why don't we all just use the excel calc. :9
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Hi, yesterday there was a problem with how Tricking Choice Items onto mons was reffed in a tournament, and I asked a few referees about it for proof but none of them really knew the answer.

So, Michael was kind enough to make a video of this! ^^;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8uRfhscGTA

Trick doesn't work like Encore, it's only locked into a move AFTER Trick is used.

Edit - Also, another thing. If Taunt is used and a move fails due to Taunt since it's a non-attacking move, Encore will not work. I've seen some people trying to ref it thinking it struggles or something, but Encore just fails in that situation. :o
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Okay, since someone was confused...

I guess the way to explain Choice items is like a piece of clay a Pokemon holds. If they use a move while holding this piece of clay, it makes an imprint on the clay and they have to keep using it. When its given to another Pokemon, it's "reset" and has no imprint on it. When the new Pokemon uses its move, it imprints the clay again. The clay does not know that it used a different move the last turn.

/confusing example
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Old 09-05-2009, 02:03 PM
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I guess the way to explain Choice items is like a piece of clay a Pokemon holds. If they use a move while holding this piece of clay, it makes an imprint on the clay and they have to keep using it. When its given to another Pokemon, it's "reset" and has no imprint on it. When the new Pokemon uses its move, it imprints the clay again. The clay does not know that it used a different move the last turn

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Or we just go by how Smogon says it. If a slower mon is Trick'd a Choice Item, it's stuck with the move it uses. Simples.
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Or we just go by how Smogon says it. If a slower mon is Trick'd a Choice Item, it's stuck with the move it uses. Simples.
I'm guessing you didn't see what happened in the vid. The intent of the Trick before JoM pointed this out to me and others was when you got KOd to Trick Scarf the KOing mon and have it stuck with that previous move.

Example:

Poke A killed Poke B with lets say flamethrower. Poke C replaces Poke B and since it's faster uses Trick, but Poke A didn't want to use flamethrower, rather hidden power or something. Instead of being stuck on flamethrower, after it attacks, it'll be stuck on hidden power. Not as effective as encore but it's a cheaper was of it really.

And if there's one thing I've learned from URPG and how a move is decided, it always goes:
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Old 09-25-2009, 10:47 AM
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Person A sends Pokemon first.
Person B sends Pokemon.
Person B sends move.
Person A sends move. (Explosion)
Both die.

Who sends Pokemon first now? D/P/Pt btw.
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Old 09-25-2009, 01:12 PM
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Person A sends Pokemon first.
Person B sends Pokemon.
Person B sends move.
Person A sends move. (Explosion)
Both die.

Who sends Pokemon first now? D/P/Pt btw.
I would say it's at the ref's discretion. I would personally have the Exploder send first.
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Person A sends Pokemon first.
Person B sends Pokemon.
Person B sends move.
Person A sends move. (Explosion)
Both die.

Who sends Pokemon first now? D/P/Pt btw.
Pokemon B sends mon and move first.
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Pokemon B sends mon and move first.
Nope, Person A sends mon first, then Person B sends move first. At least, that's how I've always been told to do it, as it continues with the alternating.
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