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Old 09-23-2007, 01:59 PM
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Default Rmt # 4

This is my 4th team and everything that is posted is by me so expect the EV spread / Items / Moves to suck!


Torkoal @ Leftovers
Ability : White Smoke
Calm (+SDef / -Atk)
252 Hp / 128 SDef (or SAtk) / 132def
-Will-o-wisp
-Stealth Rock
-Rapid Spin
-Heat Wave

Pure wall or Mix depending on what Ev spread you folks suggest
I'd rather not get rid of Torkoal because I like him very much and I think it will help my team.


Blastoise @ Shell Bell / Leftovers
Ability : Torrent
Sassy (+SDef / -Spd)
252 HP / 252 SDef / 6 Def
-Mirror Coat
-Avalanche
-Aqua Ring
-Surf

I really like this blastoise. Mirror coat for obvious reasons / Avalanche will work due to it's speed and nature / Flash Cannon cause I love that move / and Surf is a filler.


Leafeon @ Leftovers
Ability : Leaf Guard
Impish (+Def / -SAtk) / Adament (+Atk / -SAtk)
252 Atk / 252 Def / 6 Speed
-Curse
-Leaf Blade
-Baton Pass
-Wish/Aerial Ace/return/X-scissor

Hahahaha. I know Leafeon well look at the next one.


Glaceon @ Leftovers
Ability : Snow Cloak
Gentle (+SDef / -Def) / Mild (+SAtk / -Def)
252 SAtk / 252 Sdef / 6 Spd
-Water Pulse
-Energyball
-Ice Beam
-Mirror Coat/Wish

These two pokemon are Wall / Sweeper Mix that's why I chose them Because well I prefer Defence over offence.


Lunatone @ Choice Specs
Ability : Levitate
Modest (+Satk / -Atk) / Quiet (+SAtk / -Spd)
252 HP / 252 SAtk / 6 SDef
-Hypnosis
-Psycic
-Ice Beam
-Charge Beam

Trick room Sweeper


Solrock @ Life Orb
Adament (+Atk / -SAtk) / Brave (+Atk / -Spd)
252 HP / 252 Atk / 6 Def
-Trick Room
-Explosion
-Stone Edge
-Earthquake

I can get rid of Solrock for a Sweeper
As you can see my team need major help

I'd rather not switch pokemon just Nature, Items, Ev spread and Moves.

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Old 09-25-2007, 04:43 AM
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Is this team meant to be uu? I don't want to spoil anything with ou pokes.
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Old 09-25-2007, 06:53 AM
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Default Re: Rmt # 4

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Originally Posted by eb90 View Post
This is my 4th team and everything that is posted is by me so expect the EV spread / Items / Moves to suck!


Torkoal @ Leftovers
Ability : White Smoke
Calm (+SDef / -Atk)
252 Hp / 128 SDef (or SAtk) / 132def
-Will-o-wisp
-Stealth Rock
-Rapid Spin
-Heat Wave

I suggest the spread above cause torkoal has pretty Defenses if i remember

Pure wall or Mix depending on what Ev spread you folks suggest
I'd rather not get rid of Torkoal because I like him very much and I think it will help my team.


Blastoise @ Shell Bell / Leftovers
Ability : Torrent
Sassy (+SDef / -Spd)
252 SDef / 252 Def / 4 HP
-Mirror Coat
-Avalanche
-Flash Cannon
-Aqua ring(if it learns this)/Rest

Aqua ring for hp regaining, rest is only if you have completed this guy and don't want to breed/ blastoise doesn't learn Aqua ring.

I really like this blastoise. Mirror coat for obvious reasons / Avalanche will work due to it's speed and nature / Flash Cannon cause I love that move / and Surf is a filler.


Leafeon @ Focus Sash
Ability : Leaf Guard
Impish (+Def / -SAtk) / Adament (+Atk / -SAtk)
252 Atk / 252 Def / 4 Speed
-Curse/Swords Dance
-Leaf Blade
-Baton Pass
-Wish/Arial Ace/return/X-scissor


Hahahaha. I know Leafeon well look at the next one.


Glaceon @ Focus Sash
Ability : Snow Cloak
Gentle (+SDef / -Def) / Mild (+SAtk / -Def)
252 SAtk / 252 Sdef / 4 Spd
-Baton Pass
-Energyball/Shadow ball
-Ice Beam
Mirror Coat/Wish

Wish+BP is good but umbreon can do it better, i am not sure about getting rid of mirror coat for it though....

These two pokemon are Wall / Sweeper Mix that's why I chose them Because well I prefer Defence over offence.


Lunatone @ Wise Glasses
Ability : Levitate
Quiet (+SAtk / -Spd)
252 SAtk / 252 SDef / 4 Spd
-Trick Room
-Psycic
-Ice Beam
-Charge Beam

Charge beam gives a stat boost, if you get lucky you can use CHarge beam 2 or 3 times to get some power and you have a slightly less effective BoltBeam combo

Trick room Sweeper


Solrock @ Muscle band
Adament (+Atk / -SAtk) / Brave (+Atk / -Spd)
252 Atk / 252 Def / 4 Spd
-Trick Room
-Explosion
-Stone Edge
-Earthquake

Pretty good but make sure he gets the BP+Swords dance combo frm leafeon.

I can get rid of Solrock for a Sweeper
As you can see my team need major help

I'd rather not switch pokemon just Nature, Items, Ev spread and Moves.
Changes are in bold, woo.
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Old 09-25-2007, 08:59 PM
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Default Re: Rmt # 4

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Is this team meant to be uu? I don't want to spoil anything with ou pokes.
I was going for that, yes

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Changes are in bold, woo.
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Old 09-25-2007, 09:26 PM
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Your EV spreads are wrong. If you want to make a Pokemon defensive and that Pokemon's base HP is lower than their base Defense or Sp. Defense, then you should always Max out HP first. You'll take less damage by putting EVs into a low HP than a high defense.

That means every single one of your Pokemon needs 252 HP EVs.

About your items:
Never ever use Wise Glasses/Muscle Band. The power increase is too small and it will barely make a difference.

Don't use Focus Sash like that. Glaceon and Leafeon both have good defenses and can survive more than one attack. Use Leftovers on both of them. Focus Sash should only be used on Pokemon with terrible defenses.


Flash Cannon is a terrible move and should not be used. It's only supereffective against Rock and Ice (neither of which Blastoise has trouble with) and it isn't effective against any enemy that Blastoise has trouble with.

And why doesn't Blastoise have Surf? It's a pure Water type, so Water attacks are its strongest moves.
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Old 09-25-2007, 10:25 PM
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Your EV spreads are wrong. If you want to make a Pokemon defensive and that Pokemon's base HP is lower than their base Defense or Sp. Defense, then you should always Max out HP first. You'll take less damage by putting EVs into a low HP than a high defense.

That means every single one of your Pokemon needs 252 HP EVs.

About your items:
Never ever use Wise Glasses/Muscle Band. The power increase is too small and it will barely make a difference.

Don't use Focus Sash like that. Glaceon and Leafeon both have good defenses and can survive more than one attack. Use Leftovers on both of them. Focus Sash should only be used on Pokemon with terrible defenses.


Flash Cannon is a terrible move and should not be used. It's only supereffective against Rock and Ice (neither of which Blastoise has trouble with) and it isn't effective against any enemy that Blastoise has trouble with.

And why doesn't Blastoise have Surf? It's a pure Water type, so Water attacks are its strongest moves.
Ev Spread = I know they suck
I don't like to use those items because they only give the one choice you have for the move
Leftovers > Focus Sash on Leaf and Glac = Done!
Flash cannon is a Move I love but I'll get rid of it.
Blastoise does have surf.
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Old 09-25-2007, 10:39 PM
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Ev Spread = I know they suck
I don't like to use those items because they only give the one choice you have for the move
Leftovers > Focus Sash on Leaf and Glac = Done!
Flash cannon is a Move I love but I'll get rid of it.
Blastoise does have surf.
Oh it does have Surf. I don't know why Gold Groudon got rid of it. That was a bad idea.

If you don't like Choice items, use Life Orb. They'll boost your Attack or Sp. Attack way more than Wise Glasses/Muscle Band but still allow you to choose different moves.

Also, use Hypnosis on Lunatone. With a Trick Room, Lunatone can outrun just about any opponent and put them to sleep. This makes it easier for you to set up with Baton Pass.
But don't use Baton Pass on Glaceon. It has nothing to pass. Use Fake Tears, so your enemies will be much easier to kill.
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Old 09-26-2007, 12:03 AM
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Oh it does have Surf. I don't know why Gold Groudon got rid of it. That was a bad idea.

If you don't like Choice items, use Life Orb. They'll boost your Attack or Sp. Attack way more than Wise Glasses/Muscle Band but still allow you to choose different moves.

Also, use Hypnosis on Lunatone. With a Trick Room, Lunatone can outrun just about any opponent and put them to sleep. This makes it easier for you to set up with Baton Pass.
But don't use Baton Pass on Glaceon. It has nothing to pass. Use Fake Tears, so your enemies will be much easier to kill.
So Hyponosis on Lunatone
and No BP on Glaceon but Fake tears?
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