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Old 09-21-2007, 08:49 AM
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Hi i am going to make a new team on my D/P so i am testing it out on Shoddy Battle, here it is:

They are all shiny and hae 31 IV's in every stat, i am not an IV breeder, so the IV's don't matter.

Ninjask@Focus Sash
Speed Boost
Adamant(252hp, 252spd,6 def)
X-Scissor
Batton Pass
Swords Dance
Protect

My BPer, i need help on the nature and EV spread.

Machamp@Muscle Band
No Gaurd
Adamant(252atk,252spd,6hp)
IP
TP
Stone Edge
Dynamic Punch

This guy gets the boosts from Ninjask, he can pwn after 1 SD and 2 protects

Salamence@Leftovers/Life Orb
Intimidate
Adamant(252atk,252spd,6hp)
Stone Edge
EQ
Dragon Claw
Fire Fang/DD

This guy is the one who receives the BP from Ninjask. I am not sure on item and moves. Also should i use 6 hp or def or sp.def???

Porygon Z@Leftovers/Wise Glasses
Adaptability
Modest(252sp.atk,200hp,58spd)
Agility
Tri-attack
T-bolt
Ice beam

My Special Sweeper.
I am not sure if this guy siuts the team at all, should i use a different Sp. Sweeper?

Skarmory@Leftovers
Sturdy
Impish(252hp,252def,6sp.def)
Stealth Rock
Spikes
Whirlwind
Roost

My hazer/wall/hp reducing dush bag lol

Dusknoir@leftovers
Pressure
Impish(252hp, 120def, 136sp.def)
Pain Split/night Shade
Confuse Ray
WoW
Mean look

A big ass wall
This guy is one of my Favs. I am not sure on the Moveset and EV spread though.


OK, so, I need help on all of my team, please help all suggestion will be thoroughly considered, thanks in advance by the way.
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Old 09-21-2007, 05:20 PM
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Every thing is up to standard but why the hell do you not have DD on salamence.Ahh i get it the ninjask does the work.Nice team.
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Old 09-21-2007, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Gold Groudon View Post
Hi i am going to make a new team on my D/P so i am testing it out on Shoddy Battle, here it is:

They are all shiny and hae 31 IV's in every stat, i am not an IV breeder, so the IV's don't matter.

How the **** did you get max IVs on each?

Ninjask@Focus Sash
Speed Boost
Adamant 252atk, 252spd,6 h.p
X-Scissor
Batton Pass
Swords Dance
Protect

My BPer, i need help on the nature and EV spread.

Rhyperior@leftovers
Solid Rock
Impish(252hp, 252atk,6 def)
Stone Edge
EQ
Avalanche
Hammer arm

My physical Attacker, i need help on nature and EV's and Moveset for it.

Salamence@Life Orb
Intimidate
Adamant(252atk,252spd,6hp)
Stone Edge
EQ
Dragon Claw
Fire Fang

This guy is the one who receives the BP from Ninjask. I am not sure on item and moves. Also should i use 6 hp or def or sp.def???

Porygon Z@Choice Scarf
Adaptability
Modest(252sp.atk,252spd,6hp)
Dark Pulse
Tri-Attack
T-bolt
Ice beam

My Special Sweeper.
I am not sure if this guy siuts the team at all, should i use a different Sp. Sweeper?

Shuckle@Lum berry
Sturdy
Careful??(252hp, 120sp.def, 136def)
Protect
Gyro Ball
Rest
Toxic

A cruddy wall but a poor spunge at best.
This guy sucks, i know it, so do you.
I really need a better poke instead of this guy, or a massive change in the moveset and Nature and EV spread.

Dusknoir@leftovers
Pressure
Impish(252hp, 120def, 136sp.def)
Pain Split
Night Shade
WoW
Mean look

A big ass wall
This guy is one of my Favs. I am not sure on the Moveset and EV spread though.


OK, so, I need help on all of my team, please help all suggestion will be thoroughly considered, thanks in advance by the way.
Changes in bold.

here is something to replace shuckle.

Umbreon @ Leftovers
Bold
252 H.P, 180 Def, 78 Sp.Def
Moonlight / Wish*
Protect / Batton Pass*
Mean Look
Toxic
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Old 09-21-2007, 10:06 PM
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Changes in bold.

here is something to replace shuckle.

Umbreon @ Leftovers
Bold
252 H.P, 180 Def, 78 Sp.Def
Moonlight / Wish*
Protect / Batton Pass*
Mean Look
Toxic
I love that Umbreon, i was gonna use the exact same moveset for a different team, i will change it.

Also i got them all to have 31 IV's in Shoddy Battle not D/P otherwise they would be priceless for breeding purposes.

Footynut Thanks for the complement and yes that is how i raise mences stats:
1 or 2 swords dances, a protect and a batton pass.
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Old 09-21-2007, 10:41 PM
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Hi i am going to make a new team on my D/P so i am testing it out on Shoddy Battle, here it is:

They are all shiny and hae 31 IV's in every stat, i am not an IV breeder, so the IV's don't matter.

Ninjask@Focus Sash
Speed Boost
Adamant(or maybe a defensive nature??) 252hp, 252spd,6 def
X-Scissor
Batton Pass
Swords Dance
Protect

Okay

My BPer, i need help on the nature and EV spread.

Rhyperior@leftovers
Solid Rock
Adamant(252Spd, 252atk,6 def/HP)
Stone Edge
EQ
Avalanche
Hammer arm

Try Speed

My physical Attacker, i need help on nature and EV's and Moveset for it.

Salamence@Leftovers/Life Orb
Intimidate
Adamant(252atk,252spd,6hp)
Stone Edge
EQ
Dragon Claw
Fire Fang

Fire Fang is a Skam counter

This guy is the one who receives the BP from Ninjask. I am not sure on item and moves. Also should i use 6 hp or def or sp.def???

Porygon Z@Choice Scarf
Download
Modest(252sp.atk,252spd,6hp)
Dark Pulse
Tri Attack
T-bolt
Ice beam

3-Attack = good PorygonZ

My Special Sweeper.
I am not sure if this guy siuts the team at all, should i use a different Sp. Sweeper?

Shuckle@Lum berry
Sturdy
Bold / Ssassy(252hp, 120sp.def, 136def)
Double Team
Gyro Ball
Rest
Toxic

Try bold or Sassy

A cruddy wall but a poor spunge at best.
This guy sucks, i know it, so do you.
I really need a better poke instead of this guy, or a massive change in the moveset and Nature and EV spread.

Dusknoir@leftovers
Pressure
Impish(252hp, 120def, 136sp.def)
Pain Split
Night Shade
WoW
Mean look

Will-O-Wisp is good

A big ass wall
This guy is one of my Favs. I am not sure on the Moveset and EV spread though.


OK, so, I need help on all of my team, please help all suggestion will be thoroughly considered, thanks in advance by the way.
Changes in bold
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Old 09-22-2007, 12:27 AM
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Default Re: Rate my team PLZ.

ok EB, here are my thoughts on your thoughts:

Shuckle is going to be replaced with with umbreon cause umbreon>shuckle in my opinion and probably live longer with less weaknesses.

Fire fang i will change because i don't have a fire move anywhere except for WoW but it is a status move.

Why should i change Psychic on Porygon Z for Tri-Attack? Then i have no type-counter for fighting types at all except for dusknoir and his big defense stat i am screwed against a machamp or something, aren't I??

last thing i don't understand is giving rhyperior speed, he is meant as a physical wall with hp, he also attacks alot, giving him speed just makes him faster and live less long as a wall.

I am not trying to reject your opinoins or anything i would just like to understand why you think these changes are valid for my team to improve.
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Old 09-22-2007, 01:14 AM
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No speed on rhyperior.

For the psychic maatter:

Psychic: 270 Base Super Effective
Tri Attack: 240 Base Adaptibility
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Old 09-22-2007, 02:04 AM
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Wow, does it realy get raised that much?
ok, porygon can have tri-attack but what pokemon can i use for countering fighting types like the hitmons and machamp??

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Old 09-22-2007, 03:01 AM
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ok EB, here are my thoughts on your thoughts:

Shuckle is going to be replaced with with umbreon cause umbreon>shuckle in my opinion and probably live longer with less weaknesses.

Fire fang i will change because i don't have a fire move anywhere except for WoW but it is a status move.

Why should i change Psychic on Porygon Z for Tri-Attack? Then i have no type-counter for fighting types at all except for dusknoir and his big defense stat i am screwed against a machamp or something, aren't I??

last thing i don't understand is giving rhyperior speed, he is meant as a physical wall with hp, he also attacks alot, giving him speed just makes him faster and live less long as a wall.

I am not trying to reject your opinoins or anything i would just like to understand why you think these changes are valid for my team to improve.
I agree with you
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Umbreon = good
Fire Fang will do or you can think of something
Tri - Attack is 240 with Adaptibility so use it!
Sorry about Ryperior you can give it 252 in HP or Def
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Old 09-22-2007, 03:05 AM
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I agree with you
so

Umbreon = good
Fire Fang will do or you can think of something
Tri - Attack is 240 with Adaptibility so use it!
Sorry about Ryperior you can give it 252 in HP or Def
Thanks, but do you or KFC have any idea who i can use for a counter for fighting type pokemon? Do i need 1?
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Old 09-22-2007, 03:49 AM
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Thanks, but do you or KFC have any idea who i can use for a counter for fighting type pokemon? Do i need 1?
As long as you attack fast and strong, you don't really need a fighting wall, but it would be useful. Skarm might work. Dusknoir IS a fighting counter, cause night shade is a set move, so it will be able to wipe them out in 2 to 3 turns, since most fightings have mild HP. Please update your first post so we can see your so far team.
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Old 09-22-2007, 04:02 AM
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ok, i will update the team in 1 minute after i answer a PM.
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Hi i am going to make a new team on my D/P so i am testing it out on Shoddy Battle, here it is:

They are all shiny and hae 31 IV's in every stat, i am not an IV breeder, so the IV's don't matter.

Ninjask@Focus SashLeftovers/Liechi Berry(or other Pinch Berry)
Speed Boost
Adamant(or maybe a defensive nature??) 252hp, 252spd,6 def
X-Scissor
Batton Pass
Swords Dance
ProtectSub
Trust me, the Sub Ninjask works, it will get you masses in Speed, just keep Subing as they knock you down.
My BPer, i need help on the nature and EV spread.

Rhyperior@leftovers
Solid Rock
Impish(252hp, 252atk,6 def)
Stone Edge
EQ
Avalanche
Hammer armMaybe Swords Dance, Megahorn or Curse.
This can also do with Ninjask BPing.
My physical Attacker, i need help on nature and EV's and Moveset for it.

Salamence@Leftovers/Life Orb
Intimidate
Adamant(252atk,252spd,6hp)
Stone Edge
EQ
Dragon Claw
Fire FangI still think that DD works better.

This guy is the one who receives the BP from Ninjask. I am not sure on item and moves. Also should i use 6 hp or def or sp.def???

Porygon Z@Choice Scarf
Adaptability
Modest(252sp.atk,252spd,6hp)
Dark Pulse
Tri-attack
T-bolt
Ice beam
Yup.
My Special Sweeper.
I am not sure if this guy siuts the team at all, should i use a different Sp. Sweeper?

Umbreon@leftovers
Synchronize
Bold(252hp, 180def, 78sp.def)
Mean look
Toxic
Batton pass
Wish/moonlight
Deffinately
Umbreon>Shuckle. Toxic+mean look for draining the enemy, Wish for hp recovery and BP for switching it all to someone.

Dusknoir@leftovers
Pressure
Impish(252hp, 120def, 136sp.def)
Pain Split
Night ShadeWhy? is 100 Base Attack not good enough?
WoW
Mean lookCould be overkill with Umbreon having it.

A big ass wall
This guy is one of my Favs. I am not sure on the Moveset and EV spread though.


OK, so, I need help on all of my team, please help all suggestion will be thoroughly considered, thanks in advance by the way.
Changes in Bold, the teams great, all my stuff is just oppinion and not fact so you can keep it as is.
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Old 09-22-2007, 05:38 AM
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I use Night shade cause he isn't EVed in atk so his power probably won't be that great. Would it?
Also i have mean look on Dusknoir, i don't know why. What should i change it to or should i leave it the same, once again what do you think Peoplez?

I have used DDmence before but when i use it he just dies after 1 DD so i see no point especially when i have a kickass ninjask doing the work.

The sub is a good idea especially if i don't loose my sub after 1 shot, then i can use SD. Then again it is not like a sub will last long, would it?

I don't know about Rhyperior, what do you guys think?

Has anyne got any more suggestions for my team, i still need some help or is it perfect?
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Old 09-25-2007, 05:38 AM
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I think that I'd run Megahorn > Hammer Arm, better coverage since EQ pretty much takes care of everything that Hammer Arm would. But the accuracy is a thing that would be the thing to give up.
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