President

[BlazikenInferno]

Amen! Amen!

4 more years.

[Alakazam]

Originally Posted by Jeikobu

w00t! This is such an answer to prayer, it's amazing what prayer can do. It was looking like Kerry was going to win, but alot of people prayed (including me and my family), and look what happened. Praise the Lord! GO BUSH!! FOUR MORE YEARS!! FOUR MORE YEARS!!

And, honestly, I prayed for Kerry to win. *sigh*

[Dragonair]

Originally Posted by Jeikobu

w00t! This is such an answer to prayer, it's amazing what prayer can do. It was looking like Kerry was going to win, but alot of people prayed (including me and my family), and look what happened. Praise the Lord! GO BUSH!! FOUR MORE YEARS!! FOUR MORE YEARS!!

Actually Bush's victory is the proof I need that God had abandoned us.

[Sutiivun]

Only a matter of opinion Dragonair.

And I'm glad Bush won also! :D

[Tamer Marco]

Originally Posted by Sutiivun

Only a matter of opinion Dragonair.

And I'm glad Bush won also! :D

Good for you. I'm pissed. <_<

[Matthew]

Originally Posted by Alakazam

I am a devout Catholic, and am against abortion. However, abortion is such an insigificant issue in 2004 compared to the economy and foreign policy. Kerry is against abortion as a Catholic but doesn't want to force his religious views on the country, as Bush is so set on doing.

But don't you think it is funny that this election was pretty much decided on those moral values, like abortion, gay marriages, stem-cell redsearch, etc. I think that they may have played a larger part in the reelction of Bush, than that of the economy and foreign policy, though that is probably more important.

Basically: Moral Values decided this election.

Oh Dragonair... btoo bad there is a seperation of Church and State... so I think God had nothing to do with this

[Thanatos]

Wow, time for my two cents. :D

First off, Ash & Kyogre, could you be more insensitive to other culture?

Originally Posted by Ash & Kyogre

The people in Iraq are protecting their country. Anyways, it's thousands of people dying in Iraq, compared to millions of helpess infants being murdered here in America.

You are saying with that post that Americans are better then Iraq people. What's the deal? Also - A lot of those "Millions" are probly from rape, or simply unwanted pregnancies.

Originally Posted by BlazikenInferno

nice coment Alakazam, you must talk like this a lot.

Now, Tyranny and hatred? I haven't the fogiest idea what you are talking about. Bush wishes to stop that from happening. But I admit he made mistakes. We all do. His of course were much more crucial that ours though. But you must remember that hindsight is always 20/20. We didn't know, nor did Bush, what to expect when we went into Iraq. I'm sure you have talked about the soldiers killed in Iraq. Is that what you ment by "tyranny"? There are many of them killed but did you know that there are 4000 aborted babies each day? This greatly outways the s of soldiers. And who supports abortion? Isn't that Senator Kerry?

My brother understands me, he is a soldier stationed in Iraq. And he supported his Commander and Cheif and voted Bush. He and I am also Christians, so we are against abortion.

4000 Aborted babies...may I ask where you got that statistic. I will withdraw this statement if you show the reference. Moral Issues have no right in an election. Americans do not allow prayer in public schools, and rightfully so, no-one deserves to have to prayer to a God they don't believe in.

Originally Posted by BlazikenInferno

Yes, Kerry is not obeying God's law. He is putting people first. You should know as a Christian that God is first and formost. Abortion should be a huge issue to Christians because we are talking about lifes here! ing of babies! Which outnumbers the of troops the whole time we have been in Iraq within a week! Think on that one. If you call yourself a devoit Catholic.

I will stop now. I see there is no turning you from your beliefs. Which is sad because you are going in the wrong direction.

And Kerry not obeying God's law is partly a good thing. People usually do come first when you lead a country.

Now, I wish not to make enemies, I also am stating my views. I do not hate you for what you say, i just disagree, that is all.

Anyway, now that Bush is in, there is no point to keep the Topic open. However it is a Mods choice of course.

Well, now that Bush it back in maybe more of Australia's people can be sacrificed for an American war, HAZZAH!

[Alakazam]

Originally Posted by Matthew

But don't you think it is funny that this election was pretty much decided on those moral values, like abortion, gay marriages, stem-cell redsearch, etc. I think that they may have played a larger part in the reelction of Bush, than that of the economy and foreign policy, though that is probably more important.

Basically: Moral Values decided this election.

Oh Dragonair... btoo bad there is a seperation of Church and State... so I think God had nothing to do with this

Yes, it's funny and pathetic. IMO, the economy and foreign affairs are MUCH more important and pressing issues that abortion and gay marriage...

[Dragonair]

Originally Posted by Matthew

Oh Dragonair... btoo bad there is a seperation of Church and State... so I think God had nothing to do with this

Tell that to Bush, who's been quoted that he believes God picked him for the job

[Poke the North!]

Originally Posted by BlazikenInferno

But I admit he made mistakes. We all do. His of course were much more crucial that ours though.

Which is exactly the thing - as a President of a country whose actions will often affect other parts of the world, you can't afford to make mistakes, especially not ones as big as the Iraq Screw-Up, where Bush solved a not-all-that-pressing problem on dubious evidence and created a whole load more of very pressing problems. I can't believe people can view the whole thing as a success, to be honest. Yeah, sure, Saddam's gone, and that IS a good thing, but Iraqi life has not exactly gotten much better, and now non-Iraqis are being drawn into it too. I'm not saying I want all the Iraqis to be expended for the non-Iraqis, but the problems are reaching out all over the world rather than in just one area.

[Matthew]

Originally Posted by Dragonair

Tell that to Bush, who's been quoted that he believes God picked him for the job

Though there is a seperation of church and state, that doesn't stop presidents from expressing their religous veiws.... though what I am saying is that you can't say that God has abandoned us seeing as we chose Bush as president... not God... and I don't feel it right that Bush should be saying that God chose him, but that ain't gonna stop him.