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Old 04-05-2007, 02:13 PM
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Default lol celebi

Because I am downright bored of D/P, I built a new OU team.
But it's an SDCelebi team because I'm unoriginal with advance teams xp


Salamence (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 172 HP / 176 Atk / 160 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Rock Slide

Okay, he leads because he does .__.
Gets intimidate turn 1 to better allow things like Snorlax to come in on Pert.
And Ceelbi on HP Bug versions.
DD for lategame sweeping, but might just go cb.
Rock Slide because I have mag.


Jirachi @ Leftovers
Trait: Serene Grace
EVs: 40 HP / 216 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Doom Desire
- Hidden Power [Ground]
- Shadow Ball
- Wish

One of the main SD recipents.
Scary thing, honestly. With an SD, Doom Desire hits just about everything for 50% or more.
Hidden Power [Ground] 2HKO's Metagross and friends who like to think they beat Jirachi.
Gengar counter and Wish support for the team, too.


Celebi @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 108 Def / 148 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Baton Pass
- Hidden Power [Bug]
- Recover
- Swords Dance

Shiny Celebi looks evil lol
Center of the team of course.
I had Hidden Power [Grass] on here, but it beats Pert anyway.
I was a bit skeptical owhen someone suggested HP Bug on this, but when I look at it, it counters Celebi, who I have no true counter for, and kills lategame tar switch ins with an SD.


Swampert (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 236 HP / 176 Def / 96 SAtk
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Bug]
- Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam

Eh yeah standard ;/
I might put Protect on this now Celeri has Hidden Power Bugs


Zapdos @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 16 Def / 28 Spd / 52 SAtk / 160 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Light Screen
- Roar
- Thunderbolt

This used ti be mag, until somebody who uses this set suggested it
It helsp the team out with the problem that Snorlax can't take hits forever, and provides a phazer.
The EVs for this are probably terrible; if somebody could give me some decent ones for this set, that'd be great.


Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Immunity
EVs: 140 HP / 180 Atk / 16 Def / 64 SAtk / 108 SDef
Sassy Nature (+SDef, -Spd)
- Body Slam
- Fire Blast
- Focus Punch
- Selfdestruct

^__^
Dents everything not called Dusclops
Might put Counter > Fire .__.

I had Metagross > Swampert, but I was weak to so much stuff it was not funny

Currently the only thing stopping Suicune is Lax' selfdestruct
which might be another reason for LSZapdos ;/
Main reasoning behind DDMence is that I need something that can still sweep once Celebi is dead (which I try to prevent as much as possible obviously).

Apart from that, all I can say is


Rock Slide/Earthquake/HP Grass/Fire Blast tar weak lol
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Old 04-05-2007, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by -4J- View Post
Because I am downright bored of D/P, I built a new OU team.
But it's an SDCelebi team because I'm unoriginal with advance teams xp


Salamence (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 172 HP / 176 Atk / 160 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Hyper Beam or Fly
- Rock Slide

Okay, he leads because he does .__.
Gets intimidate turn 1 to better allow things like Snorlax to come in on Pert.
And Ceelbi on HP Bug versions.
DD for lategame sweeping, but might just go cb.
Rock Slide because I have mag.


Jirachi @ Leftovers
Trait: Serene Grace
EVs: 40 HP / 216 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Doom Desire
- Aerial Ace, Thunder Wave, or Cosmic Power(raise defence + sp. defence)
- Shadow Ball
- Wish

One of the main SD recipents.
Scary thing, honestly. With an SD, Doom Desire hits just about everything for 50% or more.
Hidden Power [Ground] 2HKO's Metagross and friends who like to think they beat Jirachi.
Gengar counter and Wish support for the team, too.


Celebi @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 108 Def / 148 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Baton Pass
- Ancient Power
- Recover
- Swords Dance

Shiny Celebi looks evil lol
Center of the team of course.
I had Hidden Power [Grass] on here, but it beats Pert anyway.
I was a bit skeptical owhen someone suggested HP Bug on this, but when I look at it, it counters Celebi, who I have no true counter for, and kills lategame tar switch ins with an SD.


Swampert (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 236 HP / 176 Def / 96 SAtk
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide or Counter
- Surf (better accuracy)

- Ice Beam

Eh yeah standard ;/
I might put Protect on this now Celeri has Hidden Power Bugs


Zapdos @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 16 Def / 28 Spd / 52 SAtk / 160 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Steel Wing (for rock type)
- Light Screen or detect
- Thunder Wave

- Thunderbolt

This used ti be mag, until somebody who uses this set suggested it
It helsp the team out with the problem that Snorlax can't take hits forever, and provides a phazer.
The EVs for this are probably terrible; if somebody could give me some decent ones for this set, that'd be great.


Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Immunity
EVs: 140 HP / 180 Atk / 16 Def / 64 SAtk / 108 SDef
Sassy Nature (+SDef, -Spd)
- Body Slam
- Earthquake or Shadow Ball
- Focus Punch
- Substitute

^__^
Dents everything not called Dusclops
Might put Counter > Fire .__.

I had Metagross > Swampert, but I was weak to so much stuff it was not funny

Currently the only thing stopping Suicune is Lax' selfdestruct
which might be another reason for LSZapdos ;/
Main reasoning behind DDMence is that I need something that can still sweep once Celebi is dead (which I try to prevent as much as possible obviously).

Apart from that, all I can say is


Rock Slide/Earthquake/HP Grass/Fire Blast tar weak lol


Hope this helps you.
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Old 04-05-2007, 08:09 PM
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Default Re: lol celebi

In a nutshell; no.

Nothing in this team really swaps into EQ lax save mence intimidating it when it eqs =.
spikes can also annoy nearly everything on this
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Old 04-05-2007, 08:09 PM
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Old 04-05-2007, 08:51 PM
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Default Re: lol celebi

Gengar used Hypnosis and it's 6-5 from there

Skarm also sets up on too much on this team; i'm assuming you had Magneton before which i think you could maybe put back, otherwise you'd have to go with fb on mence, Bolt on Jirachi, etc
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Old 04-06-2007, 01:40 AM
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Default Re: lol celebi

Okay actual rate.

Weezing walls this to hell and back. Also SD Celebi teams tend to fail without Magneton due to Skarm and Zapdos isn't actually adding that much to this team.

Zapdos Light Screen isn't really that helpful here, between Jirachi, Swampert, Celebi and Snorlax you're not going to be killed by electrics or special sweepers unless someone predicts and goes to Duggy wherein you're scewed but that's a weak on every Celebi-centered team. That Celebi beats out HP Grass Raikou easy, HP Ice versions lose to Swampert and Snorlax fills in the gaps with Jirachi, who even adds Wish support.

Zapdos is a really crappy pHazer.

Only pokemon that Zapdos is helping against is Gyarados. If you must keep him then add Drill Peck over Roar if only because then he can actually sweep and do stuff with your Celebi and because Roar is useless. But Maggy in back over Zapdos would help more if only because you have RS on a relatively bulky Mence with wish support and there are many more Skarms than there are Gyarados.
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Old 04-06-2007, 11:47 AM
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Default Re: lol celebi

Adding Mag back in over Gyarados then, so I can BP first turn from celebi to check for mag, and duggy eats intimidate.
eh i'll have to updat later though; i'm going over to Germany for the week to visit my sis, so I'll use her laptop to update there.
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