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Default Re: The Role Play Forge - RP Creation Teamwork

That’s more like it!

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Originally Posted by ID Saraibre Ryu View Post
*is to lazy to quote*

I read that Genesect was a fossilized Pokemon brought back to life and then tampered with, with science, so it's like another Mewtwo only it's not cloning, it' more 'machine' based since it was given that freakin' gun on it's back. I'm thinking it would be easier to control than Mewtwo was.

Okay so...because it's now stuck in my head...I keep thinking of the Gray Brotherhood as the baddies [they make me think of the guys in the Temple of Shadows in Fable II and heretics, brotherhood just sounds better.] Scarlet Lance makes me think of a lance that turned it's colour because of massive bloodshed...just how it works out in my brain. I keep seeing Black Vertigo as the good guys, that's just how I understood it all the first time in my head. So it would be Grey B in the present trying to assemble the Omniplate and find Genesect, Black Vertigo from the future try to come and stop it from happening, Scarlet Lance also from the future attempts to stop BV, both get taken to the present after being split up along the way. Scarlet Lance finds the Grey B. they join their evil forces. Black Vertigo works in the unfamiliar present to try and save the world, such and such, away we go.
I checked and Genesect still doesn’t have PokéDex entries, but that’s alright. Even if what you read isn’t right (it could be, I don’t know), it still works great as a hypothetical anyway.

Gray Brotherhood works as the antagonists as well (I originally intended for Black Vertigo to be that, but that’s perfectly alright!), I was originally thinking they would be more like the protagonists, but it works in reverse as well. It could very well be that the Scarlet Lance is a very powerful and evil faction in the future, and right now, Black Vertigo’s only real chance at stopping them is to prevent them from existing in the first place. Black Vertigo could be the rebel faction of the future, and may actually be the good guys in this. In that case, if you want Black Vertigo to be more good-aligned, it would probably be better for them to try and stop the Scarlet Lance by not killing helpless children that will end up being Scarlet Lance’s leaders, but instead teach/train them not to become their evil selves of the future.

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Originally Posted by ID Saraibre Ryu View Post
That pretty much sums up the problem bit that makes the whole RP what is.

Cause of the problem being that the plates of Arceus were shattered, thus leading to soul damage for all Legendary Pokemon [more apparent in Arceus, Dialga, Palkia, Giratina] then an unseen anomaly in space and time [the time machine from the future] caused the four previously mentioned Legendary's to fall into a hibernation state due to their damaged souls. The now weakened other legends try to set all of the world into a hibernate slumber. Some heretics think Arceus abandoned them to die and form the Grey Brotherhood to try and replace Arceus with a much more controllable 'god' in modifying Genesect, by fusing fragments of the previous type plates into an Omniplate and keeping Arceus and the others asleep. In the magnificent world of time skipping, in the future, Scarlet Lance and Black Vertigo are in conflict over the current, grim situation of the world. The world is tearing itself apart, things are in massive chaos. Black Vertigo makes a machine to try and go back in time to stop the key event in history to prevent 'Omnisect' from ever existing. A first attempt results in failure as they were compromised and thus they damaged things further. Black Vertigo being adamant on changing the past, searches for the Celebi's help. [Yes I'm saying more than one, another Pokemon 4Ever thing but again, pX] In return for taking them back into the past, Black Vertigo members must give up the gift of death and time and part of their soul to support another legendary [not really an important bit but even having a weakened legendary on your side would give Black Vertigo an even edge against Scarlet Lance and Grey B.]

Then Black Vertigo gets sent into the present, but not until having a fight with Scarlet Lance before that. They both get sent into the present, Black Vertigo left with just themselves and the Plate Gear they brought, and the legendary Pokemon that they are supporting in return for time travel.

Thus the RP starts.
I actually like this plot a LOT more (reminds me a bit of the plot in Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 2, but that’s alright, there’s plenty of difference between this and that). But yeah, I like the idea of stopping the creation of Omnisect a lot more, and it could very well be that Gray Brotherhood today may become the Scarlet Lance of tomorrow.

I also like the kind of selfless sacrifice Black Vertigo members would have to make to try and change the future to be better. To me, it just seems more interesting and heroic, and the tying to a legendary is a good idea as well. In the future, you could also say that it was Omnisect’s goal to exterminate/enslave Arceus’s legendaries. In a deal between the Scarlet Lance and Omnisect, its possible that Omnisect would make legendaries out of Scarlet Lance’s elite members, and together they would dominate all life. Omnisect’s legendaries would heartlessly cruel, rule with fear, and would have power that would be impossible to challenge.

Because of this, the current legendaries have turned toward Black Vertigo, knowing the only way to destroy the Omnisect of the future is to stop it from ever existing. If Black Vertigo can’t stop the creation of Omnisect, they and Arceus’s legendaries are doomed to exist in a dark, malevolent future.

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Originally Posted by ID Saraibre Ryu View Post
Balancing between GB and SL versus BV:

Grey B. and SL
- Has tech supplied by Scarlet Lance to synthesize Omniplate, and knowledge of where some of the fragments are.
-Scarlet Lance has more knowledge of the present time because of 'owning' the history of the current time in the future.
-Scarlet Lance can use Grey B. as a cover to make sure their motives are met and founded. Can use knowledge of the future to convert others to their causeto strengthen their hold in the future.

Black Vertigo
-Removed from the presence of time, can move about Dimensia Zones without harm and protect others with Plate Gear
-Soul linked with a single legendary [not necessary of all Black Vertigo members but I see that people will wanna use them, obviously some are off limits]
I may add more...my brain is getting lost in birthdayness right now...Finer details and such in the actual presentation will be much better than this. I'm thinking of going with arcane tech for Black Vertigo for the Plate gear, and advance straight tech for Grey B. and Scarlet Lance. I'm gonna limit a few of the same types per plate gear, [Ex: only 3 or so people can have a plate gear of the same type] and each person only gets one. Scarlet Lance and Black Vertigo get immediate access in the beginning, being from the future, Grey B. can get it eventually. Though black Vertigo can start out with one legendary Pokemon, if the legendary dies, so does it's owner/trainer/person.

I think I've got everything pretty much done, just the balancing thing and making both sides appealing.[/QUOTE]

This is definitely a good layout, but I think one of the major things that need to be covered is what kind of potentials/abilities a Soul-linked Black Vertigo member would have. For example, if you have a Black Vertigo member soul-synced (I like that word, should use it again some time in the future) with Mew, would that make them psychic, would that give them some of Mew’s moves/abilities, or would that even allow them to transform into Mew (could be a lesser “disciple” version of the legendary, with only 75% of the stats of the legendary)?

Other question that probably would be good to ask is how Black Vertigo could go about restoring things to normal either before or after the situation with Genesect/Omnisect is dealt with. If time alone would heal the damage and the souls of Arceus, Giratina, Dialga and Palkia, then Black Vertigo just needs to ensure they are protected until that happens, but if there’s something else that could be done to either speed up the healing or at least keep them protected until then, it would put another interesting dynamic on the RP as Black Vertigo would now have multiple mission objectives at once (giving those RPers more to concentrate on).

Without a doubt, it definitely looks like a really promising RP.

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Sorry! I... never really know what to say... Um. And I always sound like someone who doesn't have a clue about what they're talking about. Which is extremely accurate. *facepalms*

I don't know what to say about Sabby's RP (read- too lazy to read the entire conversation), but I'll try to crit the next one. ^^'
It’s a pretty good read though.

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